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<title>RE: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy (Using the
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hate to jump into this again, but there is
some serious self-delusion going on here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font face=Tahoma><span
style='font-family:Tahoma'> arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net
[mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Bill Darte<br>
</span></font>The 2008-2 while very close to what they wanted <font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'>[but] </span></font>was fatally flawed <font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'>[by]</span></font> its length, complexity and legalistic
language.<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2008-2 was a viable if somewhat conservative
and bureaucratic proposal. It became lengthy and complex because of good-faith
efforts to respond to the dialogue on this list. I never believed that its
complexity was crippling and always believed that however far it was from my
own preferences, it was much better than doing nothing. The people who opposed
it were simply being rigid and clinging to the good old days of a pre-scarcity
address space. IMHO they are the ones responsible for the current issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>And, I might add the serious resistance by the community to any form of
for-fee transfer policy.<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I love this word “the community.”
For those of us who understand grammar, the presence of the definite article is
striking. It suggests homogeneity where there obviously is none. As I recall
there are about a dozen vocal opponents to the idea of transfer markets, and an
equal number of vocal supporters. And when ARIN conducted a survey they found
that the majority actually favored the idea. But the vocal minority succeeded
in blocking the idea. Hooray for consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><br>
So a policy that seemed to be OK with them (since there was little overall
resistance to it) was proposed...2008-6. Its (if I do say so myself)
careful crafting was all about drawing the greatest consensus through
protections, explicit rationale and simplicity barely passed the ACs assessment
of consensus...this was helped by the explicit and outspoken encouragement (LA
meeting) by ARIN counsel.<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I never understood 2008-6. As far as I
could see it was an attempt to permit transfers while assuring everyone that
everything was the same and nothing was changing. Another interpretation is
that you can’t rely on “consensus” among a “community”
when dealing with basic economic distributional conflicts and fundamental
differences in ideology. The Board – probably wisely – realized that
action had to be taken, and took action. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Seriously, put aside differences about the
substantive policy and ask yourself a fundamental question about consensus
policy making. Perhaps it will help to put it in a different context. Suppose that
The Fed’s response to the financial crisis relied on “consensus”
decision making and you had roughly half “the community” warning that
the entire economy was headed for catastrophe unless we did X and the other half
saying that we face a catastrophe if we don’t do Y. If there is no “consensus”
then the only option is to do nothing – which both sides think is not a viable
option. What then?</span></font><br>
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