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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In an effort to add some clarification
behind the policy proposal that was submitted I will add the following. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There are a large number of IX’s in
the North American region (as well as other regions) that have address space
allocated from a provider that specializes in exchange allocations.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>According to the current ARIN policy, we
are all eligible to request space as a direct allocation from ARIN. That
is not lost on the IX’s and they do completely understand that they are eligible
for a direct allocation. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The real issue is that if the current
provider was to serve a majority of the US IX’s with a cease and desist order
from using the space at the term of all of the existing contracts at the end of
2009 that would force a massive renumber of most every IX in the North American
region, save one major IX.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The reason behind the policy proposal was
to provide a method to allow IX’s 1) protection from having to renumber
all of the IX’s, or 2) to at least let the IX’s have enough
time, before they are forced out of the space, to have a smooth transition.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Moreover, if this happens to other “c(C)ritical
i(I)nfrastructure” corporations that happen to be in unique
situations like the IX’s there would be a policy in place to offer some
margin of time or protection to the affected parties.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Speaking for myself not any company or
agent.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin Hannigan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 10, 2009
9:26 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> arin-ppml@arin.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [arin-ppml] Policy
Proposal: Protective Usage TransferPolicyforIPv4 Address</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Leo Bicknell <<a
href="mailto:bicknell@ufp.org">bicknell@ufp.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In a message written on
Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:21:51PM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote:<br>
> Why do they have two years? These sales are taking place now,
and<br>
> unexpectedly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I made the assumption that we were talking about transfer policy<br>
style transactions, which ARIN hasn't approved yet; and further<br>
that we were talking about above board transactions. It seemed<br>
likely to me that above board transactions of that sort won't be<br>
approved until close to the free pool exhaustion.<br>
<br>
If someone is doing something below board there are better ways to<br>
address that than policy changes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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I mostly agree with you, Leo, except that this stuff isn't happening below
board. The existing policies are being followed. This is a symptom of our
failure to reach consensus on a transfer policy that reflects the reality of
the twenty first century Internet, not of a systemic corruptness.<br>
<br>
Getting back to the policy; I support the intent, but I think that the author
should clarify what they want us to do a little better. Maybe ask us to
establish a process that a resource holder, an impacted indirect party, can
challenge the legitimacy of "any" transfer instead of appeal it after
the fact (TINA)? Maybe even suggest that all transfers are required to be
publicly announced on the website for a minimum of 60 days prior to execution
so that any affected parties are guaranteed at least some notice. Interesting
transparency, to say the least.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
-M<<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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