<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>I have to agree with Heather on this one. <br><br>Unless the account holder is a business entity (separate from a person), the POC needs to be the upstream ISP. Knowing a residential customer's IP block, name, address, and ISP can lead to all kinds of abuse issues. This is no joke.<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: heather skanks <heather.skanks@gmail.com><br>To: chris mr <chris.misztur@yahoo.com><br>Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net<br>Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:05:50 PM<br>Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Manual : Customer Privacy<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">Automated provisioning systems ... did you think that someone generates all those millions of templates by hand? :)<br>
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--heather<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:52 PM, chris mr <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chris.misztur@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chris.misztur@yahoo.com">chris.misztur@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello,<br>
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Reference: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four2376">http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four2376</a><br>
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I have recently noticed that ISPs such as ATT(SIS-80) and Comcast(CBCI) publish their customers' personal information in /29 reassignments. For my residential DSL service I was told to contact <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ipadmin@att.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ipadmin@att.com">ipadmin@att.com</a> to hide my personal information, which they did.<br>
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What are your thoughts as to why ISPs do not protect their residential customers' privacy by default?<br>
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My thought on this subject is that ISPs still have the belief that Internet service with static IP blocks is only required by businesses, therefore ISPs fail to make the distinction between personal and business Internet accounts.<br>
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Chris<br>
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