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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net on behalf of Iljitsch van Beijnum<BR>
Sent: Sun 8/24/2008 2:52 PM<BR>
To: Cliff Bedore<BR>
Cc: arin ppml<BR>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Comprehensive Study Shows IPv6 Shift Isn't Happening<BR>
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On 24 aug 2008, at 21:43, Cliff Bedore wrote:<BR>
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> <A HREF="http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2328258,00.asp">http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2328258,00.asp</A><BR>
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They talk about the IETF meeting creating a spike. We had 3 Mbps <BR>
traffic when IPv4 was turned off. That's not even on Arbor's IPv6 radar.<BR>
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> I found the last paragraph interesting<BR>
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> "Craig Labovitz, chief scientist at Arbor, also said there are also<BR>
> discussions going on to make the remaining IPv4 address blocks <BR>
> available on<BR>
> the open market, where they could essentially be auctioned off."<BR>
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I find it extremely uninteresting.<BR>
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An IPv4 market would be unfair (1) and unhelpful (2). We need IPv6 at <BR>
some point anyway, delaying the inevitable won't do us any favors. <BR>
However, the only thing that counts is how much IPv6 traffic there <BR>
will be the day after the last IPv4 address is given out, IPv6 traffic <BR>
before that is of no consequence.<BR>
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1 It creates an undeserved windfall for companies and organizations <BR>
that happen to be sitting on large amounts of v4 address space and it <BR>
would mean a flow of money from poor regions of the world to rich ones.<BR>
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2 All this talk about address trading means nobody will want to give <BR>
them back for free, and market economics in a market with limited <BR>
supply and high demand implies not only high prices but also <BR>
unpredictability (the last thing that we need) and all kinds of <BR>
unwanted behavior such as hoarding.<BR>
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------which is the only good thing that I see coming from all the talk of a market...make people nervous enough to move to v6, or at least get on towards it....<BR>
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Bill Darte<BR>
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