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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698461513-21082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Heather,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698461513-21082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks for the data.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698461513-21082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>However, you left out 1997. Since ARIN didn't officially
come into existence until December 22, 1997, most of 1997 is still
legacy.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698461513-21082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Keith</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> heather skanks
[mailto:heather.skanks@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 21, 2008
1:31 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Keith W. Hare<BR><B>Cc:</B>
arin-ppml@arin.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] Whois Integrity Policy
Proposal -- What is proof and how big is the problem?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Keith W. Hare <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:Keith@jcc.com">Keith@jcc.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">The
Whois Integrity Policy Proposal says:<BR><BR> ARIN will not update
historical information in<BR> the ARIN Whois Database until the resource
holder<BR> can prove the organization's right to the
resource.<BR><BR>What documentation will be required for an organization to
prove their<BR>right to a resource?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>Section 3 of the LRSA provides a process for evaluating a
request:<BR><BR>3. EVALUATION AND ACCEPTANCE<BR>Following Legacy Applicant's
completion of the online application process, ARIN will promptly evaluate Legacy
Applicant's request for the Services. Evaluation may require Legacy Applicant's
submission of additional documentation to support its application such as, but
not limited to, state registration, Dun & Bradstreet and/or taxpayer
information, and/or registration under the province or country in which the
entity is registered for verification purposes. If ARIN, in its sole and
exclusive discretion, applying its published Policies and internal verification
process, determines that it can provide the Services to Legacy Applicant, ARIN
shall provide written notice to Legacy Applicant of its willingness to do so,
and ARIN will promptly commence providing the Services to Legacy Applicant in
accordance with the terms and conditions of this Legacy Agreement. If ARIN, in
its sole and exclusive discretion, applying<BR>its published Policies and
internal verification process, determines that it cannot provide the Services,
it will provide written notice to Legacy Applicant of its
decision.<BR><BR> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><BR>The
APNIC proposal provided some statistics about how many organizations<BR>might
be affected by their proposal. Are there any counts available
for<BR>ARIN?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR><BR>Roughly..<BR>
<P class=MsoNormal>1213 netblock records with "last modified" year of
1991<BR>2654<SPAN> </SPAN>netblock records with "last modified" year of
1992<BR>6030<SPAN> </SPAN>netblock records with "last modified" year of
1993<BR>4641<SPAN> </SPAN>netblock records with "last modified" year of
1994<BR>7407<SPAN> </SPAN>netblock records with "last modified" year of
1995<BR><SPAN></SPAN>6038 netblock records with "last modified" year of
1996<BR> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>162 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1991<BR>72 ASN
records with "last modified" year of 1992<BR>122 ASN records with "last
modified" year of 1993<BR>321 ASN records with "last modified" year of
1994<BR>411 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1995<BR>624 ASN records
with "last modified" year of 1996<BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> 912 ORG records with "last modified" year of
1991<BR>1514 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1992<BR>4452 ORG records
with "last modified" year of 1993<BR>3500 ORG records with "last modified" year
of 1994<BR>4917 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1995<BR>3746 ORG
records with "last modified" year of 1996</P><BR><BR><BR> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><BR>Keith<BR><BR>______________________________________________________________<BR><BR>Keith
W. Hare
JCC Consulting, Inc.<BR><A href="mailto:keith@jcc.com">keith@jcc.com</A>
600
Newark Road<BR>Phone: 740-587-0157
P.O. Box 381<BR>Fax: 740-587-0163
Granville, Ohio 43023<BR><A href="http://www.jcc.com"
target=_blank>http://www.jcc.com</A>
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