<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">As a point of information, the data on 192.159.10.0/24 is still<div>correct and accurate and has not been updated since 1998.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 21, 2008, at 8:34 AM, John Santos wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Just out of curiosity, if you go to the ARIN web site, check your<br>POC info, determine that it is still accurate, and leave it unchanged,<br>does your date get bumped, or does it still appear to be old?<br><br>Does the database need a "date of last confirmation" to reflect this<br>situation, or would touching the "date of last update" suffice, or<br>is this a complete non-issue?<br><br><br>(I just checked my POC and ORG records and they are still correct,<br>and haven't been modified since 2000 and 2004 respectively.)<br><br><br><br>-- <br>John Santos<br>Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.<br>781-861-0670 ext 539<br><div dir="ltr"><br>For 1997<br><br>8055 netblock records with "last modified" year of 1997<br> 645 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1997<br>3677 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1997<br><br><br>For the curious:<br><p class="MsoNormal">17 POC records with "last modified" year of 1987<br>23 POC records with "last modified" year of 1988<br>135 POC records with "last modified" year of 1989<br>234 POC records with "last modified" year of 1990<br> 437 POC records with "last modified" year of 1991<br>896 POC records with "last modified" year of 1992<br>1733 POC records with "last modified" year of 1993<br>2256 POC records with "last modified" year of 1994<br>3396 POC records with "last modified" yea r of 1995<br> 3945 POC records with "last modified" year of 1996<br>4009 POC records with "last modified" year of 1997</p> <br>--Heather<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Keith W. Hare <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Keith@jcc.com">Keith@jcc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(20 4, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Heather,</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Thanks for the data.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">However, you left out 1997. Since ARIN didn't officially come into existence until December 22, 1997, most of 1997 is still legacy.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Keith</font></span></div><br> <div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"> <hr> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> heather skanks [mailto:<a href="mailto:heather.skanks@gmail.com" target="_blank">heather.skanks@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> Keith W. Hare<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Whois Integrity Policy Proposal -- What is proof and how big is the problem?<br></font><br></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"> <div></div> <div dir="ltr"><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Keith W. Hare <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Keith@jcc.com" target="_blank">Keith@jcc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">The Whois Integrity Policy Proposal says:<br><br> ARIN will not update historical information in<br> the ARIN Whois Database until the resource holder<br> can prove the organization's right to the resource.<br><br>What documentation will be required for an organization to prove their<br>right to a resource?<br></blockquote> <div><br>Section 3 of the LRSA provides a process for evaluating a request:<br><br>3. EVALUATION AND ACCEPTANCE<br>Following Legacy Applicant's completion of the online application process, ARIN will promptly evaluate Legacy Applicant's request for the Services. Evaluation may require Legacy Applicant's submission of additional documentation to support its application such as, but not limited to, state registration, Dun & Bradstreet and/or taxpayer information, and/or registration under the province or country in which the entity is registered for verification purposes. If ARIN, in its sole and exclusive discretion, applying its published Policies and internal verification process, determines that it can provide the Services to Legacy Applicant, ARIN shall provide written notice to Legacy Applicant of its willingness to do so, and ARIN will promptly commence providing the Services to Legacy Applicant in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Legacy Agreement. If ARIN, in its sole and exclusive discretion, applying<br>its published Policies and internal verification process, determines that it cannot provide the Services, it will provide written notice to Legacy Applicant of its decision.<br><br> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>The APNIC proposal provided some statistics about how many organizations<br>might be affected by their proposal. Are there any counts available for<br>ARIN?<br></blockquote> <div><br><br>Roughly..<br><p>1213 netblock records with "last modified" year of 1991<br>2654<span> </span>netblock records with "last modified" year of 1992<br>6030<span> </span>netblock records with "last modified" year of 1993<br>4641<span> </span>netblock records with "last modified" year of 1994<br>7407<span> </span>netblock records with "last modified" year of 1995<br><span></span>6038 netblock records with "last modified" year of 1996<br> </p><p>162 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1991<br>72 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1992<br>122 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1993<br>321 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1994<br>411 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1995<br>624 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1996<br><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p><p> 912 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1991<br>1514 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1992<br>4452 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1993<br>3500 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1994<br>4917 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1995<br>3746 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1996</p><br><br><br> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>Keith<br><br>______________________________________________________________<br><br>Keith W. 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