<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">From: <a href="http://www.47-usc-230c2.org">http://www.47-usc-230c2.org</a><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(0, 0, 80); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">(Seven weeks ago, during my phone conversation with ARIN officials relating to the <i>SF Bay Packet Radio</i> IP address block, I requested from ARIN a copy of their archived WHOIS record for the 134.17.0.0/16 IP address block, as it existed on any date prior to the formation of Mr. Mulligan's <i>SF Bay Packet Radio, LLC</i>. ARIN declined my request on the basis of their lack of a "policy" under which such archival and formerly publicly available WHOIS data could be provided by ARIN to members of the media or other interested parties.) <br></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">I'd like to find out from members of the community how they feel about the idea of having such a policy.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">Should we develop a policy allowing ARIN to release historical WHOIS records?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">Should there be any restrictions on the circumstances under which ARIN would do so?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">If so, what should those restrictions be?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">My initial inclination is that since this is entirely data which was, at one time, publicly available, publishing it again is entirely appropriate. I can even see some valid use cases for a "whois wayback machine", such as wanting to know the history of an address block.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">In fairness, I have not yet asked ARIN staff about the difficulty of making such data available, so, I don't know whether this is feasible or not. I would, first, like to get a sense from the community of how they feel about development of such a policy.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">Thanks,</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">Owen DeLong</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">(Note: This is not a communication from the AC, it is my own individual question)</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000050" face="Arial" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div></body></html>