<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I oppose the "equitable distribution" policy because I don't believe<div>it will create equitable distribution.</div><div><br></div><div>However, I do support the idea of preserving a certain amount of</div><div>space to be allocated as direct assignments/allocations strictly for</div><div>transitional purposes. We now have a policy proposal for that</div><div>which Matt and I are shepherding.</div><div><br></div><div>I think that there needs to be a certain amount of space set aside to</div><div>support transitional technologies or we may end up with a catch-22</div><div>in the end-game.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Stacy Hughes wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I agree with Martin.<div>While it seems to me that large ISPs are vilified for requiring more space than smaller organizations, I need to speak to the fact that they provide space to downstream customers who will _never_ qualify for PI space. We must not forget the true little guys - the /29 customers, the /28 customers - that large ISPs provide space for. This policy could effectively cheat the itty bitty guys out of legitimately needed business resources.</div> <div>I continue to support an organic depletion of the free pool without complication by policy specifically designed to control that process.</div><div>Stacy <br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:martin.hannigan@batelnet.bs" target="_blank">martin.hannigan@batelnet.bs</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> ----- Original Message -----<br> From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" <<a href="mailto:mksmith@adhost.com" target="_blank">mksmith@adhost.com</a>><br> To: "Scott Leibrand" <<a href="mailto:sleibrand@internap.com" target="_blank">sleibrand@internap.com</a>>,<br> <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Equitable<br> Distribution of IPv4 Resources before IPv4 Run out<br> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:26:19 -0700<br> <br> > Hello Scott:<br> ><br> > I'm working on a basis assumption that Extra Large<br> > organizations request more addresses more frequently than<br> > any of the other groups. So, if allocations proceed<br> > organically with the last IANA allocation, there is a high<br> > likelihood that all of the last allocation will go to the<br> > Extra Large organizations alone.<br> <br> Which will also filter down to other smaller guys, no? The<br> larger networks are fulfilling their needs so that they can<br> continue to grow their networks and their customers<br> networks. Theoretically, all that would happen is that<br> "smaller guys" with PI would have to resort to asking for<br> "PA". All considered, that's better than getting nothing or<br> stifling growth of others. Seems most fair to allow the<br> system to operate on a needs basis right to the end, IMHO.<br> <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> -M<<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> PPML<br> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy<br> Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br> <a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" target="_blank">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br> Please contact the ARIN Member Services Help Desk at <a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues.<br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>:):)<br>/S </div> _______________________________________________<br>PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy<br>Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br>Please contact the ARIN Member Services Help Desk at info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>