<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yes... That is my understanding of it as well.<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Divins, David wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="679570220-06022008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Can I please get a clarification, is the following an accurate statement:</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="679570220-06022008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="679570220-06022008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">This policy simply allows SWIP longer than /29 but does not manadate such reporting.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="679570220-06022008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="679570220-06022008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Thanks,</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="679570220-06022008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">dsd</font></span></div><!-- Converted from text/plain format --><p><font size="2">David Divins<br>Principal Engineer<br>ServerVault Corp.<br>(703) 652-5955</font> </p> <div> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> ppml-bounces@arin.net [<a href="mailto:ppml-bounces@arin.net">mailto:ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Owen DeLong<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Public Policy Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** [ppml] Proposal for SWIP/RWHOIS extension beyond /29<br></font><br></div> <div></div>The ARIN AC is about to consider the next steps for the proposal at the end of this <div>message.</div> <div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div>In light of that, we would like to get any feedback from the community on this</div> <div>proposal and especially whether it has support or not from members of the</div> <div>community.</div> <div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div>In your messages, please indicate if you support the proposal and make</div> <div>any comments you wish as to why/why not.</div> <div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div>Thanks,</div> <div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div>Owen DeLong</div> <div>ARIN AC</div> <div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Courier"> <blockquote type="cite">## * ##<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Policy Proposal Name: SWIP support for smaller than   /29 assignments<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Author: Joe Maimon<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Proposal Version: 1<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Submission Date: Jan 16, 2008<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Proposal type: modify<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Policy term: permanent<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Policy statement:<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">4.2.2.1.2.)<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">ISPs must provide reassignment information on the   entire previously<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">allocated block(s) via SWIP or RWHOIS server for /29   or larger blocks.<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">For blocks smaller<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">than /29 and for internal space, ISPs should provide   utilization data<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">using the table format described in Section   4.2.3.7.5.<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Replace with<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">ISPs must provide reassignment information on the   entire previously<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">allocated block(s) via SWIP or RWHOIS server for /29   or larger blocks.<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">For blocks smaller<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">than /29 and for internal space, ISPs should provide   utilization data<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">either via SWIP or RWHOIS server or by using the table   format described<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">in Section 4.2.3.7.5.<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">4.2.2.2.1.)<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Utilization for blocks smaller than /29 can be   documented using the<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">format described in Section 4.2.3.7.5.<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Replace with<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Utilization for blocks smaller than /29 can be   documented via SWIP or<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">RWHOIS server or by using the format described in   Section 4.2.3.7.5.<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">4.2.3.7.2.)<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">For blocks smaller than /29 and for internal space,   ISPs should provide<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">utilization data using the format described in Section   4.2.3.7.5.<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Replace with<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">For blocks smaller than /29 and for internal space,   ISPs should provide<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">utilization data via SWIP or RWHOIS server or by using   the format<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">described in Section 4.2.3.7.5.<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">4.2.3.7.5.) Accounting for additional utilization<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">The following format should be used to provide the   required information<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">for utilization of blocks smaller than /29 and for   describing internal<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">networks:<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Replace with<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">The following format should be used to provide the   required information<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">for utilization of blocks smaller than /29 and for   describing internal<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">networks when either SWIP or RWHOIS server is not   used:<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">"<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Rationale:<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">With increasing frequency of smaller than /29   assignements to customers,<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">the ability for ISP's to utilize SWIP or RWHOIS as a   single<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">comprehensive source of their utilization data should   be supported. To<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">implement this policy change, ARIN SWIP would need to   no longer reject<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">SWIP templates smaller then /29.<br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Timetable for implementation: Immediate<br></blockquote> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#144fae"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div></span></div></div> _______________________________________________<br>PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy<br>Mailing List (<a href="mailto:PPML@arin.net">PPML@arin.net</a>).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/ppml">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/ppml</a><br>Please contact the ARIN Member Services Help Desk at info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>