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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=632031514-05102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Since you asked...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=632031514-05102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=632031514-05102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>It is unclear (to me, at least) whether or not the policy
change in this proposal will achieve its stated goals. However, I don't
think the policy will hurt things as the available IPv4 address space approaches
exhaustion.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=632031514-05102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=632031514-05102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I don't expect to need any additional IPv4 space -- the /24
we got 16 years ago is sufficient for our needs, particularly with
NAT.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=632031514-05102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Therefore, I don't have an objection to this
proposal.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=632031514-05102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=632031514-05102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Keith</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Bill Darte [mailto:BillD@cait.wustl.edu]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 05, 2007 9:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Keith W. Hare;
David Conrad; ppml@arin.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ppml] IPv4 Soft Landing -
Discussion andSupport/Non-SupportRequested<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“I don’t have objection
to this proposal”…seems to abdicate responsibility to others who have stronger
feelings.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If we think of the ppml
in the context of ‘show of hands’…. You are neither raising your hand FOR nor
AGAINST….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I for one could like a
clearer declaration if you can arrive at one before we have to judge
consensus.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sorry…you were
convenient ‘to pick on’ for this reiteration of the ACs need for clear guidance
by the industry…. ;-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bill
Darte</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ARIN Advisory
Council</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
ppml-bounces@arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces@arin.net] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Keith W. Hare<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, October 05, 2007 6:47
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> David Conrad;
ppml@arin.net<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Bill
Darte<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [ppml] IPv4
Soft Landing - Discussion
andSupport/Non-SupportRequested</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With the explanation
that the 100% efficient utilization of the previous IP allocation is part of the
current requirements, I think I understand how this proposal fits in with the
current policies.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don't have an
objection to this proposal.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keith</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> David
Conrad [mailto:drc@virtualized.org] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:25
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Keith W.
Hare<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Bill Darte;
ppml@arin.net<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[ppml] IPv4 Soft Landing - Discussion and
Support/Non-SupportRequested</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Keith, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Oct 2, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Keith W. Hare
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don't know for sure
what it means to demonstrate efficient utilization of 100% of an IP
allocation. For the definitions I can think of, I'm sceptical that is
possible to honestly demonstrate efficient utilization of 100% of an IP
allocation.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I was told by ARIN staff that 100% utilization of all
previous allocations is an _existing_
requirement.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-drc<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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