<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Sep 10, 2007, at 10:12 PM, Azinger, Marla wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV><SPAN class="186125704-11092007"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Well, as Randy pointed out ...maybe I am leaping a bit. But I have had circular conversations where that wasnt viewed as such a leap. Be it strictly routing or dns success/failures, they both have fallen into the "it shouldnt be dictated by ARIN" conversations. And I guess pointing out in an obviouse way that they shouldnt be in the same conversation is needed. So...thanks Randy for getting me thinking straight again.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="186125704-11092007"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="186125704-11092007"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">So to your point John, I would say its worth writing up and submitting it. Clearly you have good rational and a need. I would be interested to see how many people would support it and what type of Con's would be pointed out. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="186125704-11092007"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>1.<SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>This is not about lame server delegations. It's about operationally incomplete</DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>DNS data.</DIV><DIV>2.<SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>DNS is not routing, but, DNS Operations, like routing, are outside of ARIN's scope.</DIV><DIV>3.<SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>It still doesn't have anything to do with stewardship over the address space</DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>or address assignment policy.</DIV><DIV>4.<SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>This is an operational issue.</DIV><DIV>5.<SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>ARIN is an address policy forum and not an operational forum.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If you want a policy body, I'd say this belongs to IETF more than any other</DIV><DIV>policy body I can think of. It is clearly out of scope for ARIN in my opinion.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Owen</DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>