<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Identical issues to what I am experiencing. If people look deeply enough, I am confident there are many Org's who operate AS's with no in-addr.arpa SOA on there DNS servers.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If anything, can we agree on the fact the current policy is too vague. I had to email ARIN's hostmaster 2 or 3 times to understand it - it can be read many ways. And the explanation I got from hostmaster was if an AS properly configures at least one in-addr.arpa zone, then Arin will bless the entire delegation and not consider the dns server as lame. To be honest, I have no idea how one draws that conclusion from the wording on the policy.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>DNS is a standard protocol. The policy should specifically state the dns servers must return a valid SOA for each in-addr.arpa in their IP prefix that they advertise from their AS (i.e. they dont have to do it for IPs they dont use). If any in-addr.arpa does not return an SOA, then that AS is in violation, and their nameserver will be considered lame and suspect for removal from reverse delegation.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I dont think it is a requirement that ARIN proactively seek and find AS's that are in violation, but it should be in the policy.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Those 2 or 3 sentences are all that is needed.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Sep 11, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Sam Weiler wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">dig +trace 79.114.208.in-addr.arpa.</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Thanks, </DIV><DIV>John Von Essen</DIV><DIV>(800) 248-1736 ext 100</DIV><DIV><A href="mailto:john@quonix.net">john@quonix.net</A></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>