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<DIV>Ted,<BR><BR>I think you don't understand... so let me make this more
clear...<BR><BR>An ASP or MSP who provides an internet service rarely supports
or deploys <BR>the end user/customers router or firewall.<BR>also for an ASP or
MSP their majority of customers are small businesses who <BR>don't have
justification for managing their own solution internally.<BR>And since this is
case you can see how the customer will have lower end <BR>equipment. and no one
on staff that is computer savvy (other wise they would <BR>not need to out
source any services or applications). So thanks you for <BR>wonderful insight to
the wonderful world of Cisco and their IOS...<BR>but its not applicable in this
scenario.<BR><BR>you also indicate that the real cause is
lack-of-planning... wouldn't <BR>acquiring address space from ARIN (if
possible) be good planning?<BR><BR>you also mentioned that using a reliable ISP
for upstream connection is <BR>needed, and not some "fly by night
operator"... Let me give you an example <BR>of a NON-fly-by-night ISP... A
company had their equipment hosted in a <BR>datacenter, and a major provider was
in the same building. so an Ethernet <BR>connection was run from the
NON-fly-by-night ISP up to the datacenter. In a <BR>few years the ISP Was bought
out by another major NON-fly-by-night ISP and <BR>decided that this location is
redundant in the area and is no longer needed. <BR>If connection was to be
maintained then an DS3 or fiber would need to be <BR>utilized from the local
Telco, and thus the pricing went way up... (I guess <BR>the company in the
datacenter could have done some better planning to avoid
<BR>this)<BR><BR>needless to say.. if they had their own block of IP's the could
have went to <BR>another NON-fly-by-night ISP in the same building and got an
Ethernet <BR>connection from them to save on cost.<BR><BR>These situation happen
all the time, and there are many more examples of <BR>what NON-fly-by-night ISP
do and can do.... an no one can argue this..<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leroy Ladyzhensky – CCNA, CCDA, CSE</FONT></DIV>
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