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<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jim- Thank you for taking time on this issue and trying to organize
the thoughts a bit.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Right
now I view alot of the sujbect matter that makes up this issue as being resolved
by evolution. That said there is one thing on your list below that
we could write policy for and one thing that is not on your list that needs to
be discussed and possibly policy written for.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
one thing that you dont have below that I think does need to be answered by our
community is...should we have a reserve of IPv4 space? If yes, who/what
would qualify for the reserved address space? Are there truely entities
that will never be able to transition to IPv4? Who can do the research to
create a list of valid qualifications?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
item on your list below that could use policy is Recycling IPv4 addresses after
we have ran out. How is the RIR to handle this? Do they put them on
a wait list? Is the wait list first come first serve? Is it
prioritized somehow? Or if we voted to have a reserve are the returned
IPv4 addresses added to the reserve and all that dont qualify under reserve
standards are told switch to IPv6?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Ok. That is my two cents.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thank
you for your time</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Marla
Azinger</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Frontier Communications</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN
class=073520422-30032007></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=073520422-30032007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>[Azinger,
Marla] </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=073520422-30032007> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> ppml-bounces@arin.net
[mailto:ppml-bounces@arin.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim Weyand<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, March 30, 2007 2:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B> ppml@arin.net<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[ppml] Summary of Trial Balloons for Dealing with IPv4
AddressCountdown<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It seems like it is time to start
the relatively hard work of actually developing alternative policy proposals
to deal with the IPv4 Address Exhaustion Issue. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is too late to prepare proposals for
the April meeting but we have about 5 months before the cutoff for the October
meeting.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have never written a
proposal to any of the governing bodies but my guess it will take at least
that long to: gather a group of like-minded individuals; negotiate the details
of what to propose; write the proposal; seek feedback; rewrite the proposal;
etc, etc until the proposal is either accepted or made irrelevant by another
proposal.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I find myself struggling with how
to convert the suggestions and comments on this list into actual policy
proposals.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think it is useful at this point
to list the different trial balloons and proposals that have been suggested
and discussed regarding IPv4 address exhaustion.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you have a favorite that I have
missed, send it to me privately and I will send out a revised summary in a
week or so.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">1)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Policy Proposal 2007-12: IPv4
Countdown Policy Proposal – I believe this is the only proposal that can be
voted on at the upcoming meeting in April.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The full text can be found at: <A
href="http://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2007_12.html">http://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2007_12.html</A>.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN class=GramE>This proposal
will</SPAN>, “Set the date for termination of (IPv4) allocations and the date
of announcement”.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This proposal
specifically does not address IP address recycling except to say that,
“Recovery of unused address space should be discussed
separately.”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">2)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">An informal proposal to not make
any changes to current policy until absolutely
necessary<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">3)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">An informal proposal to encourage
address recycling by increasing ARIN dues <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">4)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Several similar informal proposals
to encourage recycling by empowering ARIN to more actively police the use of
IPv4 addresses by various means<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">5)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">An informal proposal to change the
nature of assigned IPv4 addresses to something similar to real
property<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">6)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">An informal proposal to ask
holders of unused address IPv4 addresses to voluntarily return the
addresses<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">7)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Several variants of informal
proposals to start assigning IPv6 space with IPv4<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">8)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">An informal proposal to get <SPAN
class=SpellE>endusers</SPAN> to demand access to IPv6 networks by creating a
media storm similar to Y2K.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is time to make up your mind,
roll up your sleeves and get to work.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The current policies for dealing with IPv4 Addresses are not causing a
crisis… yet.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is however an
urgent issue and extremely
important.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>