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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> ppml-bounces@arin.net
[mailto:ppml-bounces@arin.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill Darte<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, March 30, 2007 7:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Azinger, Marla; Jim Weyand;
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<P><FONT size=2>I too thank Jim and I will be happy to work with you as you
see fit to engage this topic and the industry's perspectives.<BR><BR>And what
of reclaimation? It seems if we are going to play the end game, then we
need to establish policy that states clearly that ARIN can and will reclaim
space. Let the litigation begin and let's get on with it.<BR><BR>Bill
Darte<BR>ARIN AC<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
ppml-bounces@arin.net on behalf of Azinger, Marla<BR>Sent: Fri 3/30/2007 5:21
PM<BR>To: Jim Weyand; ppml@arin.net<BR>Subject: Re: [ppml] Summary of Trial
Balloons for Dealing with IPv4AddressCountdown<BR><BR>Jim- Thank you for
taking time on this issue and trying to organize the thoughts a
bit.<BR><BR>Right now I view alot of the sujbect matter that makes up this
issue as being resolved by evolution. That said there is one thing
on your list below that we could write policy for and one thing that is not on
your list that needs to be discussed and possibly policy written
for.<BR><BR>The one thing that you dont have below that I think does need to
be answered by our community is...should we have a reserve of IPv4
space? If yes, who/what would qualify for the reserved address
space? Are there truely entities that will never be able to transition
to IPv4? Who can do the research to create a list of valid
qualifications?<BR><BR>The item on your list below that could use policy is
Recycling IPv4 addresses after we have ran out. How is the RIR to handle
this? Do they put them on a wait list? Is the wait list first come
first serve? Is it prioritized somehow? Or if we voted to have a
reserve are the returned IPv4 addresses added to the reserve and all that dont
qualify under reserve standards are told switch to IPv6?<BR><BR>Ok. That
is my two cents.<BR>Thank you for your time<BR>Marla Azinger<BR>Frontier
Communications<BR><BR>[Azinger, Marla]<BR> -----Original
Message-----<BR>From: ppml-bounces@arin.net [<A
href="mailto:ppml-bounces@arin.net">mailto:ppml-bounces@arin.net</A>]On Behalf
Of Jim Weyand<BR>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:35 PM<BR>To:
ppml@arin.net<BR>Subject: [ppml] Summary of Trial Balloons for Dealing with
IPv4
AddressCountdown<BR><BR><BR><BR> It
seems like it is time to start the relatively hard work of actually developing
alternative policy proposals to deal with the IPv4 Address Exhaustion
Issue. It is too late to prepare proposals for the April meeting but we
have about 5 months before the cutoff for the October meeting. I have
never written a proposal to any of the governing bodies but my guess it will
take at least that long to: gather a group of like-minded individuals;
negotiate the details of what to propose; write the proposal; seek feedback;
rewrite the proposal; etc, etc until the proposal is either accepted or made
irrelevant by another
proposal.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>
I find myself struggling with how to convert the suggestions and comments on
this list into actual policy
proposals.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>
I think it is useful at this point to list the different trial balloons and
proposals that have been suggested and discussed regarding IPv4 address
exhaustion. If you have a favorite that I have missed, send it to me
privately and I will send out a revised summary in a week or
so.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>
1) Policy Proposal 2007-12: IPv4 Countdown
Policy Proposal - I believe this is the only proposal that can be voted on at
the upcoming meeting in April. The full text can be found at: <A
href="http://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2007_12.html">http://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2007_12.html</A>.
This proposal will, "Set the date for termination of (IPv4) allocations and
the date of announcement". This proposal specifically does not address
IP address recycling except to say that, "Recovery of unused address space
should be discussed
separately."<BR><BR>
2) An informal proposal to not make any
changes to current policy until absolutely
necessary<BR><BR>
3) An informal proposal to encourage
address recycling by increasing ARIN
dues<BR><BR>
4) Several similar informal proposals to
encourage recycling by empowering ARIN to more actively police the use of IPv4
addresses by various means<BR><BR>
5) An informal proposal to change the
nature of assigned IPv4 addresses to something similar to real
property<BR><BR>
6) An informal proposal to ask holders of
unused address IPv4 addresses to voluntarily return the
addresses<BR><BR>
7) Several variants of informal proposals
to start assigning IPv6 space with
IPv4<BR><BR>
8) An informal proposal to get endusers to
demand access to IPv6 networks by creating a media storm similar to
Y2K.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>
It is time to make up your mind, roll up your sleeves and get to work.
The current policies for dealing with IPv4 Addresses are not causing a crisis.
yet. It is however an urgent issue and extremely
important.<BR><BR><BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>