[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2025-3: Change Section 9 Out Of Region Use Minimum Criteria

[Quantum]

Hi,

On 2026-09-24 22:38, Daryll Swer wrote:
> > Further, any belief that ARIN is likely to be a continuing source of 
> IPv4 addresses is ill-advised at best. Move on to IPv6. It’s long 
> overdue.
>
> +1
>
> I still see way too much effort, energy, time and money spent on: 
> IPv4. Instead of rolling out IPv6.

I agree with you, actually. Why is ARIN spending all this effort, 
energy, time, and money trying to add new restrictions to the IPv4 
waiting list in this policy proposal? Recall the specific wording this 
policy is inserting:

> Out-of-Region Usage Justification may not be used to receive IPv4 address space from the ARIN Waiting List (4.1.8), the Micro-allocation Pool (4.4), or the Dedicated IPv4 Block to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment (4.10).
>
> Any organization already on the Waiting List at the time this policy is implemented will be exempted and shall remain eligible under the rules in effect at the time of its placement on the Waiting List.

Why is this change even necessary? Why are we slapping a restriction on 
IPv4 justifications this late in the game? Why are we rearranging the 
deck chairs on a sinking ship? This is but one of the reasons why I am 
opposed to the policy.

> Of course we need v4, but come on: why aren't we spending as much time 
> and effort, *collectively*, with 464xlat and MAP-T, instead?

You are asking the right questions about the IPv6 transition. You should 
know that this policy proposal makes it more difficult also.

Consider the case where you are happily using IPv6 from ARIN 
out-of-region and want to deploy 464XLAT or MAP-T to ensure you can 
access legacy IPv4 stuff, but need a bit of IPv4 space to do so.

According to ARIN-2025-8, ARIN already rejects out-of-region requests 
under 4.10. Even if ARIN doesn't, the section of this proposal I quoted 
will forbid section 4.10 from being used here. So your only option to 
get the IPv4 space for such would be to:

 1. Get it from the ARIN waiting list; or
 2. Buy it from an IPv4 broker.

The recommended draft policy ARIN-2025-3 will close off the first 
avenue, which makes it harder to do IPv6 transition.

So I ask again, why are we spending time actively making the situation 
worse? Why are people even proposing such restrictions when they could 
be thinking about the IPv6 transition? Therefore, I oppose this 
recommended policy as written.

Best regards,
Quantum
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