[arin-ppml] Slow summer....

Fri Jul 24 08:14:15 EDT 2026

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> Fair enough, and I will refer to it as LLMs so as to avoid confusion.

Agreed, as of 2026, at least.

Surely you have heard about LLMs solving unsolved math problems already?

That's a misleading statement, to say the least. These LLMs are tools that
constantly require human intervention to move forward. This means humans
used LLMs to *assist* in solving some problems (including mathematics).

LLMs did not solve these problems "single-handedly" with zero human
intervention. I know, sci-fi is cool and I'd like a time machine, but let's
stick to reality in this forum/channel.

I am more concerned with the obvious path of these LLMs in the future.

My point stands. You don’t know if an LLM wrote this reply to you.

Agreed. Typically, some website hosting platforms use LLM itself to help
spot or flag LLM-generated text content/spam.

So perhaps, for these mailing lists - the "spam filters" need an upgrade to
support LLM-based detection/flagging with clear UI/UX signalling to
subscribers so they know if an email body contains potential LLM-generated
content.

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Best Regards
Daryll Swer
Website: daryllswer.com
<https://l.shortlink.es/l/edc6fb5ccdcfdb521745067f235d30b8e90add56?u=2153471>

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 at 17:36, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:

> Hi Daryll,
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> Fair enough, and I will refer to it as LLMs so as to avoid confusion.
>
> Surely you have heard about LLMs solving unsolved math problems already?
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> I am more concerned with the obvious path of these LLMs in the future.
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>
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> My point stands. You don’t know if an LLM wrote this reply to  you.
>
>
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> Regards,
>
> Mike
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> *From:* Daryll Swer <contact at daryllswer.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2026 8:03 AM
> *To:* Mike Burns <mike at sum.net>
> *Cc:* Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>; Fernando Frediani <
> fhfrediani at gmail.com>; arin-ppml at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Slow summer....
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> In this peculiar type of forum how would you know whether you have seen it?
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> Which medical/neuroscience institute has verified that "AI" (something
> adjacent to, equivalent to, or surpassing the human brain) exists in the
> public domain?
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> I think you're conflating "AI" (which no authority has yet verified exists
> in the public domain) with LLMs and slop.
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> There's nothing to see regarding something that does not currently exist
> in the public domain.
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> *--*
>
> Best Regards
>
> Daryll Swer
>
> Website: daryllswer.com
> <https://l.shortlink.es/l/38fb91dd4be6732199adbfa97771a871b07dbfeb?u=2153471>
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> On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 at 17:25, Mike Burns <mike at sum.net> wrote:
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> Hi Daryll,
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> In this peculiar type of forum how would you know whether you have seen it?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
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> Sent from my Galaxy
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> -------- Original message --------
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> From: Daryll Swer <contact at daryllswer.com>
>
> Date: 7/24/26 3:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>
>
> Cc: Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>, arin-ppml at arin.net
>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Slow summer....
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> > the best arguments if they come from AI
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> I've yet to see such an incident. And to my knowledge, "AI" isn't publicly
> available yet; we only have LLMs.
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>
> *--*
>
> Best Regards
>
> Daryll Swer
>
> Website: daryllswer.com
> <https://l.shortlink.es/l/8ca45c7b170af55b883b29adc1a353d0ae727d00?u=2153471>
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> On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 at 02:33, Mike Burns via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> wrote:
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> Hi Fernando,
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> I welcome your thoughts.
>
> It may get harder and harder to distinguish between polish and outright
> verbatim echoing of AI posts by a human interlocutor.
>
> The open mailing list is designed to solicit the best arguments, should we
> ignore the best arguments if they come from AI?
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> It seems likely to be that we will be dealing with this situation at some
> point.
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> Regards,
>
> Mike
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> *From:* ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> *On Behalf Of *Fernando
> Frediani
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2026 1:49 PM
> *To:* arin-ppml at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Slow summer....
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> Surely no AI should post in a human discussion mail list. It doesn't make
> much sense
> If people want to use AI to polish their text no problem, as long messages
> are reviewed and sent by humans.
>
> Mail list should not be treated a destination for automated systems to
> send message, just for human discussions.
>
> Fernando
>
> On 7/23/2026 2:09 PM, Mike Burns via ARIN-PPML wrote:
>
> Hello List,
>
>
>
> Based on a current discussion on the AFRINIC policy development list, I
> wanted to discuss the use of AI to post to policy lists.
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> Because these are open forums handled by email, it is quite trivial for
> any AI to be echoed to the list by a real person, or even post directly in
> the guise of a real person.
>
> I have used translators to help me post, I expect more and more will use
> AI to polish, if not create their posts.
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> So simply banning use of AI is not the answer, but it brings up some
> questions.
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> Is this the camel’s nose of AI into human government?
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> Should we empower an AI to post directly, or be callable like ask grok?
>
> Should we treat the AI posts just like any other post?
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> I am not discussing abuse of the list through repeated  AI posts restating
> the same argument and I assume lists have existing tools to exclude certain
> posters who do abuse.
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> Any thoughts on using AI on stakerholder governance lists?
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> Regards,
>
> Mike
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