[arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2024-10: Registration Requirements and Timing of Requirements With Retirement of Section 4.2.3.7.2

Sun Jul 20 20:11:08 EDT 2025

While I’m willing to be convinced otherwise, I see no compelling reason to
change from 7 to 14 days. I’m not strongly opposed to 14 days. But if no
one is willing to make a first-person argument supporting the change to 14
days, then why make the change?

Thanks.

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 18:12 Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> There is seemingly no pre revenue, capex or opex backlog implied by
> comments related to this requirement. There is no RIR issue to fix that I
> can read. This is a business problem that at face value isn't superior to
> speed of public registration.
>
> +1 harmonize to 7 days.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 18:51 Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML <
> arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
>
>> While I appreciate the explanation, I don’t have a lot of sympathy. They
>> have 7 days to register it AFTER giving it to the customer. If they need
>> more time, then they can delay the customer receipt of the addresses to
>> facilitate that.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2025, at 09:21, Kat Hunter <takokat81 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Staff had reached out to the WG stating larger organizations needed a
>> little more time to get their registrations in as they had a larger number
>> of customers and could sometimes get backlogged. Since I'm from a large
>> organization, I want to clarify that we were not one of the requesters of
>> this, however, I do know it was an issue of others who were trying to stay
>> compliant with ARIN but potentially had some sort of system/network issue
>> and got backed up. The 14 days was to give them a little extra time to get
>> their registrations in.
>>
>> -Kat Hunter
>> Comcast/ARIN AC Chair
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 7:23 AM Matthew Cowen via ARIN-PPML <
>> arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have no particular issue with the draft proposal.
>>>
>>> However, is there an explanation of the rationale behind the 14 days. I
>>> understand the harmonisation between v4 and v6, but why move up to 14 days
>>> rather than moving both to 7?
>>>
>>> —
>>> My best/Cordialement,
>>>
>>> Matthew Cowen
>>>
>>> On 18 Jul 2025, at 12:59, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> The following Draft Policy has been revised:
>>>
>>> *ARIN-2024-10: Registration Requirements and Timing of Requirements With
>>> Retirement of Section 4.2.3.7.2
>>>
>>> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>>>
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_10/
>>>
>>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
>>> evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft Policy with
>>> ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the
>>> Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>>>
>>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>>> * Technically Sound
>>> * Supported by the Community
>>>
>>>
>>> The PDP can be found at:
>>>
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>>>
>>>
>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>>
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Eddie Diego
>>> Policy Analyst
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>
>>>
>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2024-10: Registration Requirements and Timing of
>>> Requirements With Retirement of Section 4.2.3.7.2
>>>
>>> Problem Statement:
>>>
>>> Registration is central to the value provided by ARIN to the community.
>>> Registry quality depends greatly upon the timely registration of
>>> reassignments from ISPs to end users. The motivation for registration has
>>> waned since the depletion of the free pool. Registration remains vital to a
>>> number of stakeholders, including law enforcement and network operators.
>>>
>>> This proposal aims to modernize the registration-related policies in
>>> Section 4 by introducing language that is meant to remind ISPs of the
>>> importance of registration when feasible for the benefit of the community.
>>>
>>> Policy Statement:
>>>
>>> REPLACE: Section 4.2.3.7.1
>>>
>>> Original Text:
>>>
>>> “Each IPv4 reassignment or reallocation containing a /29 or more
>>> addresses shall be registered via SWIP or a directory services system which
>>> meets the standards set forth in section 3.2.”
>>>
>>> New Text:
>>>
>>> “Each IPv4 reassignment or reallocation containing a /29 or more
>>> addresses shall be registered via an approved directory services system
>>> which meets the standards set forth in section 3.2, within fourteen
>>> calendar days.”
>>>
>>> RETIRE: Section 4.2.3.7.2 - Reassignments and Reallocations Visible
>>> Within Seven Days
>>>
>>> RENAME: 6.5.5.1 from “Reassignment Information” to “Reassignment and
>>> Reallocation Information”.
>>>
>>> REPLACE: 6.5.5.1
>>>
>>> Original Text:
>>> ”Each static IPv6 reassignment or reallocation containing a /47 or more
>>> addresses, or subdelegation of any size that will be individually
>>> announced, shall be registered in the WHOIS directory via SWIP or a
>>> distributed service which meets the standards set forth in section 3.2.
>>> Reassignment and reallocation registrations shall include each client’s
>>> organizational information, except where specifically exempted by this
>>> policy.”
>>>
>>> New Text:
>>> ”Each static IPv6 reassignment or reallocation containing a /47 or more
>>> addresses, or subdelegation of any size that will be individually
>>> announced, shall be registered via an approved directory services system
>>> which meets the standards set forth in section 3.2. Reassignment and
>>> reallocation registrations shall include each client’s organizational
>>> information, except where specifically exempted by this policy.”
>>>
>>> RENAME: 6.5.5.2 from “Reassignments and Reallocations Visible Within
>>> Seven Days” to “Reassignments and Reallocations Visible Within Fourteen
>>> Days”
>>>
>>> REPLACE: Section 6.5.5.2
>>>
>>> Original Text:
>>>
>>> “All reassignments and reallocations shall be made visible as required
>>> in section 6.5.5.1 within seven calendar days of reassignment or
>>> reallocation.”
>>>
>>> New Text:
>>>
>>> “All reassignments and reallocations shall be made visible as required
>>> in section 6.5.5.1 within fourteen calendar days of reassignment or
>>> reallocation.
>>>
>>> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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