[arin-ppml] ARIN-2025-4: Resource Issuance to Natural Persons -- Request for Feedback

[Martin Hannigan]

On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 14:41 Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> Martin,
>
> You appear to be making the assertion that hobbyists are not legitimate
> users of internet number resources.
>
> I simply disagree.
>
> Owen



Not entirely deliberately. Thats more complex and out of scope for this
proposal.

>
>
>
> > On Jul 16, 2025, at 06:40, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 5:17 PM William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 1:51 PM Matthew Cowen <matthew at dgtlfutures.com>
> wrote:
> >>> https://entreprendre.service-public.fr/vosdroits/F32886
> >>
> >> Hi Matthew,
> >>
> >> I'm sorry, I see where that document talks about a dozen different
> >> types of French companies that aren't sole proprietorships but not
> >> where it talks about sole proprietorships. That whole first section is
> >> literally the types of companies you can choose which -aren't- sole
> >> proprietorships and the legal ramifications of each. The phrase,
> >> "entreprise individuelle," never appears again after the first
> >> paragraph. If you want me to consider the information, I need it to be
> >> on-point. Not a general description of the types of businesses
> >> possible in France.
> >>
> >> I note that
> https://stripe.com/resources/more/how-to-create-a-sole-proprietorship-france#registration-costs
> >> says that setting up a "microbusiness" sole proprietorship in France
> >> is *FREE* while the prior information I found on Martinique in
> >> particular says it costs 22 Euros so if you have more authoritative
> >> information than what I found it would be helpful for it to also be
> >> Martinique-specific.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Martinique *is* France ;)
> >>
> >> I get that Martinique's relationship with France is comparable to
> >> Puerto Rico's relationship with the United States. Puerto Rico has no
> >> shortage of local laws and regulations which differ from mainland
> >> practices. A commerce.gov web page would not serve to clarify sole
> >> proprietorships in Puerto Rico.
> >>
> >
> >
> > This seems like a distraction. Feel free to come to Boston and visit
> > the City Clerk's office to register your DBA and watch what happens.
> > There's a good chance if there's anything at all questionable the
> > Clerk themself will come out from the cave and discuss it. This
> > doesn't appear any materially different than anywhere else and it's
> > different (and easier) when you are local. My point is are we talking
> > about corner cases or is there a problem representing a high
> > percentage of applicants that ARIN is failing -and- does the community
> > want to do something about it?
> >
> > - How many applicants have completely failed to obtain resources as a
> > percentage of those who have succeeded?
> > - How many are engaged in commercial activities vs. hobbyists?
> > - What is the non-sunk cost of obligations ARIN would need to fulfill
> > to allow non government vetted entities to obtain resources?
> > - What is the public safety risk or registry improvement, if any, of
> > ARIN vetting vs. government vetting?
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > -M<
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