[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID

[Paul E McNary]

Did ARIN ever handle the Sole Proprietor Business that uses his SS Number as his business number? 
In other words no name on file with Secretary of State. 


From: "Lee Howard via ARIN-PPML" <arin-ppml at arin.net> 
To: "arin-ppml" <arin-ppml at arin.net>, "ARIN" <info at arin.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2025 9:39:17 AM 
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID 

I still think this proposal misses the mark. I still don't understand why this term needs to be defined in policy rather than in operational process. 

The proposed text says: 

" An Organization Identifier (Org ID) is a unique text label that represents a business, nonprofit corporation, or government entity in the ARIN database." 

If you follow the web site from "Requesting IP Addresses or ASNs" the first sentence is " All resource requests require an [ https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/account/ | ARIN Online account ] linked to either an [ https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/account/records/poc/#creating-a-poc | Admin or Tech Point of Contact (POC) record ] with the authority to request resources for a valid Organization Identifier (Org ID)." Follow the ARIN Online link to a page that says: 
"An Org ID represents a business, nonprofit corporation, or government entity in the ARIN database. The Org ID is defined by a legal name, postal address, and points of contact." 

So the term is already defined on the web site in exactly the proposed words. 


There's no such field in the ARIN database. There's a "Full Name" and a "Handle" in the Org object, e.g. [ https://search.arin.net/rdap/?query=ARINOPS&searchFilter=entity | https://search.arin.net/rdap/?query=ARINOPS&searchFilter=entity ] . There's also an "Address", and related POC objects. Which one is the Org ID? Or is it the concatenation of all of those (since " The Org ID is defined by a legal name, postal address, and points of contact.") ? 

I think we mean the Handle when we say Org ID, but you could never guess that from the definition. 

Please, let us try to use consistent language so somebody new to the process can understand it. 

Thanks, 

Lee 



On Tuesday, January 7, 2025 at 04:46:48 PM EST, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote: 


The following Draft Policy has been revised: 

* ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID 

Revised text is below and can be found at: 

[ https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_1/ | https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_1/ ] 

You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are: 

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration 
* Technically Sound 
* Supported by the Community 

The PDP can be found at: 

[ https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ | https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ ] 

Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: 

[ https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ | https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ ] 


Regards, 

Eddie Diego 
Policy Analyst 
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) 


Draft Policy ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID 

Problem Statement: 

During work on a related policy proposal, the NRPM Working Group determined that a definition of Organization Identifier (Org ID) should be included in the NRPM to add clarity to the term and unify NRPM references to match the use of the term in other ARIN publications such as ARIN online. 

Policy Statement: 

Current: None 

Proposed: 

Section 2.18. Organization Identifier (Org ID) 

An Organization Identifier (Org ID) is a unique text label that represents a business, nonprofit corporation, or government entity in the ARIN database. 

Comments: 

This definition had previously been included in an earlier policy proposal (ARIN-2023-7), but community feedback recommendations on that proposal showed a preference for adding the definition separately from that proposal. As such the definition is now being proposed as a standalone proposal, and the language will be removed from the current ARIN-2023-7 proposal, allowing the two sections of that proposal to be evaluated separately. 

Timetable for Implementation: Immediate 




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