[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID - Abandonment Statement

[Tyler O'Meara]

> Some of the feedback we received on the AC was that it would be
helpful to avoid writing policy in terms of existing business practice
because ARIN wants to develop and adjust the business practices to
match the policy. 

I very strongly agree with this.

> I also want to draw attention to NRPM sections 4.5 and 6.11 where the
text already uses the term "Organization ID." In light of the above,
should we look at adjustments to these sections?

That sounds like a good idea to me.

> If, for example, we want policy to apply to a group
of legal entities under common control instead of applying to
individual legal entities then that's what the policy should say,
allowing ARIN staff to develop the appropriate tooling and data
management practices to meet that need.

It's my understanding that ARIN is already implicitly doing something along
these lines when it comes to 4.10 and IPv4 waitlist requests. Do we want to add
something to Section 4 to ratify this requirement?

Tyler

On Wed, 2025-02-12 at 21:34 -0800, William Herrin wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 5:56 PM Reese, Gus <gReese at cogentco.com> wrote:
> > I wanted to add a note regarding my decision to abandon this draft policy
> > with the unanimous consensus of the Advisory Council.
> > 
> > As primary shepherd of this policy I presented this at both ARIN 53 (draft)
> > and
> > ARIN 54 (recommended draft).  I had a conversations with a few fellow
> > attendees
> > at ARIN 54 about this policy and the concern that was raised to me is
> > “Why are we codifying in policy what should be defined in ARIN business
> > practices?”.
> > In an event to salvage the policy after the in-room poll at ARIN 54 I worked
> > with the policy author to refine the language and presented it to PPML in
> > January 2025.  The feedback to those changes echoed what I received at ARIN
> > 54.
> 
> Thanks Gus!
> 
> I just want to add a little bit of additional information.
> 
> For reference, this was the proposal to add a definition of "Org ID"
> to the NRPM. The Org ID is a database label that ARIN uses in its
> business practices to connect legal entities with their points of
> contact and IP address registrations.
> 
> Some of the feedback we received on the AC was that it would be
> helpful to avoid writing policy in terms of existing business practice
> because ARIN wants to develop and adjust the business practices to
> match the policy. If, for example, we want policy to apply to a group
> of legal entities under common control instead of applying to
> individual legal entities then that's what the policy should say,
> allowing ARIN staff to develop the appropriate tooling and data
> management practices to meet that need.
> 
> I also want to draw attention to NRPM sections 4.5 and 6.11 where the
> text already uses the term "Organization ID." In light of the above,
> should we look at adjustments to these sections?
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
>