[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - August 2025
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Tue Aug 26 14:29:04 EDT 2025
In accordance with the Policy Development Process (PDP), the Advisory Council met on 21 August 2025.
The AC has advanced the following Proposal to Draft Policy status (will be posted separately for discussion):
*ARIN-prop-347: Reserve 4.10 space for In-Region Use
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community
The AC has abandoned the following Draft Policies:
*Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation
*Draft Policy ARIN-2024-10: Registration Requirements and Timing of Requirements with Retirement of Section 4.2.3.7.2.
*Draft Policy ARIN-2025-4: Resource Issuance to Natural Persons
See below for statements of abandonment:
*Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation
The AC issued the following statement:
"The "Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation" was abandoned after the AC determined that there was insufficient interest and lack of support from the community for moving the policy forward.
Reasons for abandonment:
The Advisory Council concluded that there was insufficient interest from the membership to advance this policy.
While there had been a surge of initial interest and extended discussions on the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) and at several community meetings, that momentum gradually diminished over time and engagement eventually tapered off. In addition, the waitlist times had shortened significantly, further reducing the relevance of the proposal. As a result, there was no longer sufficient community support to justify continuing work on the policy.
Opportunity for Resubmission:
Should circumstances change in the future, or if new conditions arise that warrant renewed attention, a revised policy proposal may be submitted. Any such proposal should provide a clearer rationale and approach to effectively address the issue.
Community feedback:
1. The problem statement no longer accurately reflects the current state of the Waitlist, and as such, may no longer be valid. The extended wait times have been reduced significantly since the initial problem statement submission, and the waitlist seems to be self-regulating, despite the number of entries on the Waitlist.
i. Wait times have dropped from a high point in excess of 30 months (Sept 2023);
ii. The last three distributions, recipients on the IPv4 Waiting List waited between 18-21 months;
iii. It is projected the 18-21 months wait will remain the same for the next few quarters;
iv. Waitlist size: 2025: Jan 763; Feb 817; Mar 852; Aug 11: 916;
2. Waiting List times are expected to remain at approximately 18-21 months, while continuing to fluctuate;
3. For those unwilling to wait for the waitlist, alternatives such as the lease market exist;
4. Community feedback has been mixed:
i. Some community members support the policy, arguing that a /24 allocation is sufficient for many organizations and that the change will help address the IPv4 shortage;
ii. Others argue that a /24 is inadequate and that the current policy framework is sufficient, even with longer waiting times;
iii. Some have expressed concerns about the impact of the change on organizations that require larger allocations and the potential for the policy to encourage IPv6 adoption;
iv. Some have said that there is no need for this policy, that the waitlist is working as it should;
5. The author has indicated that he is no longer in support of the draft policy, for some of the reasons stated above;
6. If there is any change in the existing situation which may warrant a revisiting of the waitlist, a new policy can be submitted for consideration that time;
History of the policy:
Proposal Submitted - 26 October 2023;
Draft Policy - 21 November 2023;
Revised - 14 February 2024; 30 September 2024; 27 June 2025;"
Anyone dissatisfied with this decision may initiate a petition. This petition request must occur within seven days after the announcement date of the Advisory Council action. The petition against abandonment deadline for 2023-8 is 2 September 2025.
*Draft Policy ARIN-2024-10: Registration Requirements and Timing of Requirements with Retirement of Section 4.2.3.7.2.
The AC issued the following statement:
“ARIN-2024-10: Registration Requirements and Timing of Requirements With Retirement of Section 4.2.3.7.2 was last presented at ARIN 55, community feedback suggest there was no clear support for this policy. Recent PPML comments indicates the community has clearly stated 7 days is enough time to register with ARIN, given the problem statement indicated a need for more time, removing the increase in registration time language from the policy would no longer provide a solution to this section of the problem statement. Having discussed the feedback from the community the AC believes this policy does not have the support of the community. Based on these findings the AC has taken the action to abandon this policy."
Anyone dissatisfied with this decision may initiate a petition. This petition request must occur within seven days after the announcement date of the Advisory Council action. The petition against abandonment deadline for 2024-10 is 2 September 2025.
*Draft Policy ARIN-2025-4: Resource Issuance to Natural Persons
The AC issued the following statement:
“The advisory council has abandoned draft policy ARIN-2025-4 Resource Issuance to Natural Persons because community feedback has indicated no clear path to consensus support for this policy. In addition, after the staff and legal review was published, it was clear that this would impact business practices and finances and should be the responsibility of the board to determine a path forward through the ACSP.
PPML discussion has been evenly divided between support and opposition for this policy and the validity of the problem statement. Both ARIN staff and community members have expressed concerns that this policy may be out of scope for the Policy Development Process (PDP) and that the changes are better suited for the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process (ACSP).
According to ARIN staff, this policy would have a significant impact on ARIN's business practices by shifting the operational model from business-to-business (B2B) to include business-to-consumer (B2C) relationships. Many folks on PPML suggested examples of jurisdictions where it may be difficult for an individual to form a governmentally recognized organization; but only one person presented a personal example of not being able to meet ARIN's requirements in his state back in 2009. Community members on PPML were not able to come to a consensus as to whether it is prohibitively difficult for individuals to obtain resources from ARIN. They were also not able to agree as to whether the potential regulatory risks and financial costs to ARIN are justified."
Anyone dissatisfied with this decision may initiate a petition. This petition request must occur within seven days after the announcement date of the Advisory Council action. The petition against abandonment deadline for 2025-4 is 2 September 2025.
The AC is continuing to work on:
Recommended Draft Policies:
*ARIN-2025-2: Clarify 8.5.1 Registration Services Agreement
Draft Policies:
*ARIN-2024-5: Rewrite of NRPM Section 4.4 Micro-Allocation
*ARIN-2025-1: Clarify ISP and LIR Definitions and References to Address Ambiguity in NRPM Text
*ARIN-2025-3: Change Section 9 Out Of Region Use Minimum Criteria
*ARIN-2025-5: Clarify justification requirements for 4.4, 4.10, 6.10, and 11.10 IP addresses
*ARIN-2025-6: Fix formula in 6.5.2.1c
*ARIN-2025-7: Make policy in 6.5.8.2 match the examples
The PDP can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
PDP Petition information can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/petitions/
Recommended Draft Policies, Draft Policies, and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
Regards,
Eddie Diego
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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