[arin-ppml] distributing resources for individuals

[Ryan Hamel]

John,

I echo David's point coming from California. My ARIN resources are under my legal name, which was approved by the team that handles org tickets, and the legal team.

A sole proprietor without a DBA, can legally conduct business in several states and potentially provinces too, and that also includes signing ARIN's agreements.

Kind regards,

Ryan Hamel
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John,

The issue is in Missouri, Minnesota, and probably many other states; if you are doing business under your own name and not a DBA, you don't need to register with the state to operate a sole proprietorship.

So, if ARIN procedures require a lookup with the Secretary of State, effectively, that requires more than just operating as a business; it also requires operating that business under a fictitious name, not under the owner's name.

Section 9 of the NRPM gives a lot of latitude for demonstrating that an organization operates within the ARIN region. A similar amount of latitude should be available to establish that an individual is acting as a business and not an individual, even if the jurisdiction's laws and procedures don't neatly align with ARIN procedures.

Thanks

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 6:04 PM John Curran <jcurran at arin.net<mailto:jcurran at arin.net>> wrote:


On Apr 16, 2025, at 6:02 PM, Paul E McNary <pmcnary at cameron.net<mailto:pmcnary at cameron.net>> wrote:

Originally
12 years ago when I tried to get ARIN resources, I was greatly harmed by this.
In Missouri at that time a Sole Proprietor did not have to register with the Secretary of State.
ARIN would not issue resources unless they could verify you with Secretary of State database.
We had a State Sales Tax and Employment Tax ID for 20 years, but that wasn't good enough.

Paul -

To be certain there’s a clear understanding of the problem that resulted from the organization requirement – are you saying that you were unable to register a DBA name with Missouri Secretary of State in 2013?  There is a 7$ fee associated with such registration (every 5 years) but from all appearances it is otherwise a rather nominal process, so if there is/was some other barrier it would be good to explain it so that folks understand the scope of the problem that you experienced when trying to do so.

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers








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