[arin-ppml] distributing resources for individuals

[Andrew Dul]

Preston,

Do you have suggestion about what barrier that needs to be removed?

While filing for a DBA or registering as a business is a step, to me it 
seems like a very small step and in many cases a much smaller step than 
applying to ARIN for number resources.  For example, in the state of 
Washington, one can file online for about $55 and the process would 
probably take less than 10 minutes.

Andrew


On 4/16/2025 1:09 PM, Preston Ursini via ARIN-PPML wrote:
> Remove the barrier for legitimate networks operated by individuals, 
> the door shouldn’t be open for anyone, it needs to remain in place for 
> legitimate network operators that can justify the needs for the 
> assets, whether they be for an individual or corporation.
>
> The other requirements for numbering assets should otherwise remain 
> the same in relation to this proposed policy change, and validated 
> proof of identification of the individual should also be recorded in 
> some way.
>
> Looking further back at the issue, it is likely easier for people 
> committing fraud to incorporate fake companies through state level 
> secretary of state offices and work under the name of a fake company 
> versus working under the name of a fake individual.  So validating the 
> identity of an individual, whether the application be for a company or 
> individual, is probably a good idea all around.  Name / Date of Birth 
> / Government Issued Identify Document at a minimum.
>
>
> Preston Ursini
>
>
>> On Apr 16, 2025, at 3:02 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>>
>> Preston -
>>
>> As a point of clarity – when you suggest that “removing this barrier 
>> should be given great consideration”, do you mean for removing the 
>> barrier for "legitimate networks operated by individuals” (such as 
>> you referenced in your explanation), or for removal of the barrier 
>> for individuals in general?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> /John
>>
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 16, 2025, at 3:51 PM, Preston Ursini via ARIN-PPML 
>>> <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know of at least one individual that was working to start a 
>>> network and was harmed by this.  He is a colocation customer, 
>>> unincorporated, and uses his network for himself and his place of 
>>> employment; however the employer did not want to go through the 
>>> process of obtaining numbering assets from ARIN, and the network is 
>>> used for his own joint venture.  He simply saw the requirement and 
>>> did not proceed.
>>>
>>> I would ascertain that most legitimate networks operated by 
>>> individuals is probably relatively small, however our colo somewhat 
>>> acts as a network incubator giving a place for small networks to 
>>> grow.  I believe most individuals stopped by this requirement would 
>>> not reach out to ARIN for change.  If you look at some IXPs you’ll 
>>> see there are plenty ran under assumed names, with some IXPs 
>>> themselves being ran by individuals that aren’t incorporated.
>>>
>>> If you look into small ISPs and IXPs, and their start, you’ll find 
>>> that many of them start off as unincorporated sole proprietors.  One 
>>> thing we’ve found is that these networks are likely to end up 
>>> leasing IP space from an upstream provider as the barrier to 
>>> obtaining their own IP Assets may be seen as too high.  In short, 
>>> this causes providers that could probably get away with IPv6 + NRPM 
>>> 4.10 IPv4 w/ CG-NAT are being forced to lease IPv4 as these lessors 
>>> have a financial incentive to show leased IPv4 as a necessity for a 
>>> new network, thus also possibly having the effect of stalling IPv6 
>>> adoption for these small networks that in turn grow into large ones. 
>>>  Getting them onboarded w/ ARIN and running IPv6 from the start 
>>> would be a win.  More educational material for IPv6 and numbering 
>>> planning from ARIN would be great, and lowering and/or removing 
>>> perceived barriers to entry will do a lot long term to help with this.
>>>
>>> In short: We help small networks navigate this, and we have seen the 
>>> requirement for a business license / assumed name / etc act as a 
>>> barrier to entry for small networks, and I believe even for small 
>>> IXPs, and may have a side effect of causing a barrier to IPv6 
>>> adoption for small networks.
>>>
>>> I believe the notion of removing this barrier should be given great 
>>> consideration.
>>>
>>> Preston Ursini
>>>
>>
>
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