[arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Mon Oct 7 20:52:17 EDT 2024


Hello Bill

I see your goodwill to find a solution to this topic, but the reality is 
that there aren't, simply because there is not enough recovery to 
fulfill de waiting list. Waiting list is not a solution that makes 
appear new IPv4 and will not solve much problems during this very scarce 
IPv4 exhaustion scenario.

I think forcing people to receive smaller blocks than the bare minimal 
may cause undesirable situations, unfairness and at the end waiting list 
may keep its rate regardless. If it moves fast it would encourage more 
organizations to sit on it.

What I think is worth doing is remove any organizations sitting in the 
waiting list that have blocks already and allocate only to those who 
have nothing.
I can't understand the concern some have to secure the position to those 
who are there as if it was an 'acquired right'. As far as I know sitting 
in the waiting list never gave any guarantees to anyone that they would 
receive a block and for sad that situation is that will not happen for 
most given the scenario. It is necessary the rules to change and I see 
no problem at all to remove these organizations who never ended up 
receiving anything so far as there are enough justifications for that.
Removing all these organization who already have some space can make it 
a lot more effective and create more fairness to give those who have 
nothing a chance to start and move the waiting list with more effectiveness.

Fernando

On 07/10/2024 15:54, William Herrin wrote:
>> With less than a 6-month backlog, eligible
>> organizations can receive up to a /22. More than 6 months and it drops
>> to /23. More than 12 months and it drops to /24. These restrictions
>> apply only to requests added to the wait list after the policy's adoption.
> How about it, folks? Can we get consensus around this concept?
> Essentially it'd become effective in about two years and serve to
> manage the duration of the waitlist by reducing the amount allocated
> when it grows long. And of course, everyone who needs more addresses
> or needs them sooner has the option to go to the market and pay.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>


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