[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2024-5: Rewrite of NRPM Section 4.4 Micro-Allocation

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Fri May 24 01:38:26 EDT 2024



> On May 23, 2024, at 22:09, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 11:16 PM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
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>> On the switch tech l2 piece ATM etc does contradict demonstrated standards. And if IX tech changes, policy could be changed. If someone tells ARIN they’re deploying an ATM switch as an IX in 2024 it should set off alarm bells IMHO.
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>>> As long as the physical switch component is kept I don't think there would be heartache. But hope the reasons help everyone understand the inside baseball.
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>> Well, I think requiring a switch (as opposed to some possible other mechanism of physical interconnection) is also unnecessarily specific, but I think as long as a physical interconnection infrastructure is required (which I believe is accomplished in my proposed language), I think we’re good. If you see holes in my proposed language, I’m certainly open to wordsmithing them.
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> Out of all IX in North America:
> - none chose ATM as a media type
> - 22 chose multiple types which means ethernet + ATM
>    These networks did so mistakenly;  choice was confusing and FOMO, none offer ATM or other
> - 237 chose ethernet
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> I also don't see why transport between sites is an issue related to the policy. We're talking about local switch fabrics which the data shows is 100% ethernet in 2024.

I’m not saying anyone is using anything other than ethernet now. I am saying that (in case you haven’t noticed) network technologies change over time and I don’t think an IX that wants to use a new technology should have to wait for ARIN policy to catch up in order to do so.

> So why don't we, if we really need to, remove the word ethernet and be done with it? I'd really hate to lose the clarity and plain language.

I’m almost fine with that. If you want to go that way, I’d propose “…connected to a physical fabric infrastructure to be used for the purpose of…”.

That would still eliminate your VirtualIX’s, and yet be technology agnostic.

Owen

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