[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID

[John Curran]

Owen -

With the preface that ARIN staff do not make policy proposals – but do provide feedback on policy discussions as appropriate – I concur that the more functionally-oriented definition of Org ID does appear to be a step in the right direction, but your point regarding intention to participate in the registry versus holding resources is definitely valid (and thus the wording is likely not a precise as it might be…)

I would note that there is an existing definition of Internet number resources in NRPM that references the Internet Numbers Registry System, and one possible approach to defining Org ID could simply observe that those who wish to participate in that system via ARIN services are issued OrdID’s for that purpose; i.e., something to the effect of –

An Organization Identifier (Org ID) is an identifier assigned to entities that wish to participate in the Internet Numbers Registry System via ARIN registry services.

(and while I hope this feedback is helpful to the community in considering possible evolution of the draft policy, I observe there are likely many other ways to address the issue so in no way should it be considered constraining that evolution.)

Best wishes,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

On Feb 8, 2024, at 2:52 AM, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:

Since one technically needs to create an ORG-ID in order to request resources (if you don’t already have an ORG-ID), ORG-IDs are technically assigned to entities prior to them obtaining resources.

As such, while I think this definition is somewhat on the correct track, technically, it is invalid, so I cannot support as written.

Owen


On Feb 7, 2024, at 13:05, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:

The following Draft Policy has been revised:

* ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID

Revised text is below and can be found at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_1/

You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community

The PDP can be found at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/

Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/


Regards,

Eddie Diego
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)


ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID

Problem Statement:

During work on a related policy proposal, the NRPM Working Group determined that a definition of Organization Identifier (Org ID) should be included in the NRPM to add clarity to the term and unify NRPM references to match the use of the term in other ARIN publications such as ARIN online.

Policy Statement:

Current: None

Proposed:

Section 2.18. Organization Identifier (Org ID)

An Organization Identifier (Org ID) is an identifier assigned to resource holders in the ARIN registry.

Comments:

This definition had previously been included in an earlier policy proposal (ARIN-2023-7), but community feedback recommendations on that proposal showed a preference for adding the definition separately from that proposal. As such the definition is now being proposed as a standalone proposal, and the language will be removed from the current ARIN-2023-7 proposal, allowing the two sections of that proposal to be evaluated separately.

Timetable for Implementation: Immediate




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