[arin-ppml] AC Candidates (Chris Tacit)

[Owen DeLong]

I believe that proposal was abandoned due to substantial community opposition and little support
expressed on the mailing list.

If you were waiting for the meeting to get support expressed, that was a poor choice. The majority
of policy development work is intended to be on the list with the meetings serving primarily 
as an opportunity for fine tuning and semi-final comments on proposals that are nearly ready
for last call. Other proposals are discussed at the meetings as time permits (and that usually
means we make time for every active proposal at every meeting).

But at a point where it appears to the AC that a proposal is extremely unlikely to reach
consensus (i.e. has significant strong opposition and minimal support), it’s perfectly reasonable
for the AC to make the determination to abandon.

Owen


> On Oct 27, 2023, at 13:30, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Thanks for introduction the topic of list participation by AC members and candidates.
> The AC minutes obviously don't give much detail about any substantive discussions between AC members.
> 
> My story:
> Considering the interest on the list, I was nonplussed when my recent proposal to allow non-connected customers to be considered as valid justifications for transfers was abandoned by the AC.
> As I remember it was just before a meeting where I expected some robust, live debate and I felt the abandonment was peremptory.
> I knew I could petition, though, and I knew it was a judgment call because there was little support expressed on the list, and I remember your opposition.
> However I thought we were waiting for the live event and marshalling our rhetorical ammunition.
> As an author who lost the pen, I also lost the decision-making about abandonment I suppose.
> 
> In general I prefer transparency and discussion on the list to closed intra-AC debate. If there is a reasonable way to achieve that, great.
> It would certainly help evaluate re-election candidates.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of William Herrin
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 3:18 PM
> To: Heather Schiller <heather.skanks at gmail.com>
> Cc: arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] AC Candidates (Chris Tacit)
> 
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 12:08 PM Heather Schiller <heather.skanks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We wanted to encourage discussion so we could determine support, but 
>> not dominate the conversation.
> 
> Hi Heather,
> 
> Does holding the substantive discussion in closed meetings while the bulk of proposals see little or no public comment on the list equate to the AC *not* dominating the conversation?
> 
> Does the current process actually achieve that lofty goal?
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
> --
> William Herrin
> bill at herrin.us
> https://bill.herrin.us/
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