[arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

Michael B. Williams Michael.Williams at glexia.com
Mon May 8 08:19:11 EDT 2023

Noah very well said, and I completely agree!
Capitalism decided otherwise... The business model changed the day IP
brokers realised they could earn a living by sitting in their couches,
running no useful IP-based network and thereby undermining the
community-based RIR system role and long-standing objectives.

On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 8:14 AM Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 2:33 PM Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> You can only lease what you own.
> Is there any such thing as ownership?... My understanding has always been
> that resource members agreed to sign agreements with an RIR to become a
> member so that they can be afforded INR based on need to use the number IP
> based networks....
>> What people are trying to do here is pretend they own the resources and
>> earn money with an asset they don't own despite everything that what IP
>> addresses have always meant for.
> Its total chaos.
> IP leasing is an attestation that the resource holder doesn't justify for
>> those resources anymore, therefore they should be revoked and assigned to
>> someone else who really justifies for it.
> Capitalism decided otherwise.... the business model changed the day IP
> brokers realised they could earn a living by seating in their couches,
> running no useful IP based network and thereby undermining the community
> based RIR system role and long standing objectives.
> ARIN should use any financial and legal resources it has to invest in a
>> efficient reclamation process in order to keep its missing to assign shared
>> resources to those who really need them to build internet infrastructure,
>> not do those who wish to speculate around IP space.
> Well various IP based business models cropped from the community and
> succeeded through the need based system.
> The system ought to find itself and renew its bandwith and capacity if it
> will be able to continue serving the community as it always did.
> Noah
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