[arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Sun May 7 20:59:46 EDT 2023

This is sensible and realistic.  In agreement.

Thanks Dave,


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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

In my opinion, the 60-month probation on transfers in section 4.1.8 is intended to prevent immediate monetization through the transfer market of IPv4 resources obtained from the waiting list. Allowing the lease of IPv4 resources obtained from the waiting list prior to the end of the 60-month probation would seem to flaunt the intent of the probation. However, once past the 60-month probation, allowing the transfer or lease of IPv4 resources seems consistent with the policies intent.

I would like to point out that the transfer market has been remarkably successful in making IPv4 resources voluntarily available that otherwise would not have been available or would have required a highly litigious reclamation process to be made available. In addition, leasing seems to be a natural evolution of the transfer market for those that do not have the capital funding to obtain IPv4 resources on the transfer market. Finally, despite a few issues, the waiting list has also been remarkably successful at ensuring any IPv4 resources returned to ARIN, for whatever reason, are redistributed to the ARIN community.

Suggestions that ARIN should instead auction the waiting list resources, while seemingly logical, given the success of the transfer market, nevertheless seem incompatible with ARIN's not-for-profit status.

In summary, leasing IPv4 resources obtained from the waiting list after the 60-month probation should be allowed. Prior to that, leasing should not be allowed. How we effectively enforce that is another question entirely, and I personally don't have any good answers to that question.


On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 10:54 AM WOOD Alison * DAS <Alison.WOOD at das.oregon.gov<mailto:Alison.WOOD at das.oregon.gov>> wrote:

Good morning PPML!

I would like community feedback on the leasing of ip space that is obtained from the waitlist.  Please let me know what you think and if a policy proposal would be warranted.

Thank you!


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