[arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

scott at solarnetone.org scott at solarnetone.org
Sun May 7 16:01:57 EDT 2023


On Sun, 7 May 2023, Michael B. Williams via ARIN-PPML wrote:

> I disagree. While the waitlist may help companies offer competitive services
> for their product lines, it should not be the "product" itself. I.e. the
> offering of IP services should be coupled with the actual offering of
> services.
> To point, if companies offer connectivity-related services, such as, but not
> limited to, hosting, transit, data transit, and ISP, I don't have an issue
> as these are in the spirit of what IP resources should be obtained for.
> Obtaining IP resources for the purposes of immediately reselling or leasing
> them to companies is not in the spirit of ARIN's policies.
> The waitlist should not be designed for companies simply to make money by
> "waiting" in line as a spot holder than reselling the IP addresses.
> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 2:16 PM Ron Grant <ron at balansoft.com> wrote:
>       To be honest, the whole purpose of the waitlist is for companies
>       to make money from obtaining IP space.  True, we usually assume
>       they'll be doing it the old-fashioned way, by (gasp) offering
>       services - however I think that somehow "tainting" the
>       waitlist-obtained addresses is going to cause more trouble than
>       it would prevent.
>       On 2023-05-05 8:58 a.m., Michael B. Williams via ARIN-PPML
>       wrote:
>       Are you asking if an entity were to obtain IP space from
>       the waitlist, should they be permitted to lease it to
>       someone else? My answer is a resounding no. That defeats
>       the whole purpose of the waitlist. Entities should not be
>       encouraged to hoard IP space because ARIN will subsidise
>       the cost, allowing a for-profit entity to make money from
>       obtaining IP space.
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