[arin-ppml] Policy Experience Workgroup - 8.3/8.4 12-Month Waiting Rule Question

Matt Erculiani merculiani at gmail.com
Mon May 8 22:34:09 EDT 2023


There appears to be a lot more overlap than just that stanza. Does it make
sense to combine 8.3 and 8.4 into just 8.3 "Transfers between specified
recipients" then call out the differences between intra and inter RIR
policy in a new 8.3.1 and 8.3.2?

But to actually answer the question that was asked:

I think the 12 month cool down period is reasonable if you're transferring
out an equal or smaller IPv4 block that was just received. The desire to
transfer sooner could indicate commercial intent with the resources
themselves from the outset and/or the lack of a valid technical
justification for all of the resources being transferred initially.

I will say that receiving an IPv4 block and transferring out an ASN (or
vice versa) could be mutually exclusive. IDK if that actually applies.

-Matt




On Mon, May 8, 2023, 09:34 Douglas Camin <doug at dougcamin.com> wrote:

> Hello –
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> The Advisory Council’s Policy Experience Workgroup is looking for feedback
> regarding the 12-month waiting rule outlined in Sections 8.3 and 8.4 of the
> Number Policy Resource Manual.
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> Currently, the text for both is identical and reads as follows:
>
> With the exception of M&A transfers under section 8.2, the source entity
> must not have received a transfer, allocation, or assignment from ARIN for
> the past 12 months. This requirement may be waived by ARIN for transfers
> made in connection with a renumbering exercise designed to more efficiently
> utilize number resources under section 8.5.5.1.
>
> Do you feel it is still necessary and\or serves a useful purpose? If not,
> should it be removed or modified?
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> Thank you in advance for your input –
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> Doug
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> --
>
> Douglas J. Camin
>
> Member, ARIN Advisory Council
>
> doug at dougcamin.com
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