[arin-ppml] Re-thinking Section 8.5.6

Delong.com owen at delong.com
Thu Jul 20 18:31:59 EDT 2023


Wow… It’s rarely that I find myself in such polarized disagreement with Scott, but in this case, I think he is simply wrong. Economic might does not necessarily make right.

Owen


> On Jul 20, 2023, at 14:36, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> No. 
> 
> If a business can’t afford to may market price for addresses, they don’t have as much need for them as someone who can, and shouldn’t expand that part of their business. If an organization has addresses that they have a stronger economic incentive to hold than to free up and sell/lease, then we shouldn’t be trying to find policy levers to force them to do something (economically) inefficient. 
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2023, at 1:45 PM, A N <anita.nikolich at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On behalf of the ARIN AC Policy Experience Working Group, and in response to the Policy Implementation and Experience Report presented at ARIN 51, we're looking for input on a possible proposed revamp of NRPM Section 8.5.6 "Efficient Utilization of Previous Blocks". 
>> 
>> The crux of the issue is there are very large orgs that could have a /8 or more of unused space, yet still qualify for more based on the current policy ("must have efficiently utilized at least 50%"). Smaller orgs with more immediate needs are in competition for the space, and prices are driven up. 
>> 
>> The Working Group would like some input on this before drafting a proposal. Input or thoughts are welcome about: 
>> - should the utilization be raised, and if so, to what threshold? 
>> - should utilization criteria be tied to the size of the org, in other words tiered?
>> - any other thoughts.
>> 
>> Thanks much! 
>> Anita
>> 
>> 
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