[arin-ppml] Are we an ISP or an End-User? Can our designation change at a later time?

John Sweeting jsweeting at arin.net
Thu Jan 5 11:05:09 EST 2023


David, ARIN will provide the information you requested later today. Thanks

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On Jan 4, 2023, at 7:12 PM, David Farmer via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:




On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 4:32 PM William Herrin <bill at herrin.us<mailto:bill at herrin.us>> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 11:52 AM Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com<mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Another thing that I wanted to understand better is the reasoning to allocate a significant smaller IPv6 block to a said end-user organization given it is not so scarce resource.

The standard size assignment to an end user is /48 per IETF
recommendation. That's 65,000 LANs, 2^80 IP addresses. Vanishingly few
end-user organizations actually have a need for more LANs than that.
However, since /48 is also the minimum Internet routable size,
end-user organizations with multiple independently-connected sites may
need several /48s. That's a minority of end-users but still a
significant number.

This is all true; However, justifying a larger end-user allocation (formerly known as an assignment) isn’t that hard either; you justify a /48 per site in a larger multi-site organization; they don’t have to be independently connected. That is, more than 1 site but less than or equal to 12 sites receive a /44 allocation; more than 12 but less than or equal to 192 sites receive a /40 allocation; see the policy for even larger allocations and a discussion for campus environments. Also, most larger organizations likely could qualify as an ISP/LIR if they wish.

So, many end-user organizations are receiving /44s, /40s, and even larger allocations without much trouble. Could the ARIN staff provide an updated histogram of IPv6 allocation sizes; I haven't seen one in several years.

I hope that helps.

ISPs get a /32 so that, by default, they can assign 65,000 /48s to
their customers and still keep a few for themselves. That's the reason
they receive significantly more.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

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