[arin-ppml] v4 vs. v6 micro allocations justifications

Aaron Wendel aaron at wholesaleinternet.net
Wed Dec 6 10:29:12 EST 2023


2 is a PNI, not an exchange.


On 12/5/2023 8:25 PM, Richard Laager wrote:
> Absolutely.
>
> I’d love to see the number be higher, like 3 or 5. If you can’t find 
> more than two, are you really going to get anywhere?
>
> -- 
> Richard
>
>> On Dec 5, 2023, at 17:51, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>       - 4.4. Micro-allocation
>>
>> Defines the minimum participant count as "three"
>>
>>
>>         - 6.10.1. Micro-allocations for Critical Infrastructure
>>
>> Defines the minimum participants count justification as "two"
>>
>> How'd that happen? I can't seem to pin down a draft to see.
>>
>> As I researched this, however, I again saw widely and was reminded of 
>> the below.
>>
>> Here's what we have justification wise in both:
>>
>> Exchange point operators must provide justification for the 
>> allocation, including: connection policy, location, other 
>> participants (minimum of two total), ASN, and contact information.
>>
>> Here's what we see a lot as a result (which is not in the spirit of 
>> the policy):
>>
>> Spaghetti-IX Justification Peer 1: Spaghetti-IX Route Server ASN 65536
>> Spaghetti-IX Justification Peer 2: Spaghetti-IX Route Server ASN 65537
>> Spaghetti-IX Justification Peer 1: CedgeoEonnecto (BOS)
>>
>> Here's what I suggest would be meaningful:
>>
>> Exchange point operators must justify the allocation by providing the 
>> location of the switch, the contact information information and 
>> public ASN of the initial connecting parties. The initial connecting 
>> pirates must be unique and independent from each other.
>>
>> Which should result in:
>>
>> Meatball-IX Justification Peer 1: Unique Network ASN 65536
>> Meatball-IX Justification Peer 2: Unique Network ASN 65537
>> Meatball-IX Justification Peer 1: Unique Network ASN 65538
>>
>> That would prevent quite a bit of cruft IMHO.
>>
>> FYI,
>>
>> -M<
>>
>>
>>
>>
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