[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5

John W. O'Brien obrienjw at upenn.edu
Wed Sep 14 12:44:53 EDT 2022

Much of the opposition to the draft is due to the real or perceived 
difficulty that a member of the networking staff would have in obtaining 
the required officer attestation.

About a year ago, Penn placed its legacy IPv4 number resources under the 
LRSA, which also required executing a revised RSA to true up the ORG's 
formal name. Those contracts were signed on the "Authorized Officer" 
line by the same IT Procurement Specialist who signs contracts to buy 
routers and switches and so forth. As a practical matter, would ARIN 
accept an attestation pursuant to the current 8.5.5 requirement that was 
signed by that same individual?

Forgive me if I missed the answer to this question earlier in the thread.

I neither support nor oppose this draft at this time.


On 9/12/22 12:51 PM, Joe Provo wrote:
> Hey folks,
> We haven't had any feedback here after the publication
> of the Staff & Legal review as noted in Matthew's message
> below.  Given that it speaks directly to concerns raised
> here on PPML, we need community feedback here to confirm
> *our* impressions.
> Please let us know!
> Joe
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 12:50:13PM -0700, Matthew Wilder wrote:
>> Hi PPML,
>> Staff and Legal review has been conducted for Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3. The
>> relevant bit for the community to consider is the legal review, which is as
>> follows:
>> "No material legal issue. Removal of the officer attestation would not
>> materially impact ARIN???s ability to pursue cases of fraud."
>> As shepherds, we believe this directly resolves the primary concern voiced
>> by members of the community.
>> For the full staff and legal review, please check the following:
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_3/*staff-and-legal-review-15-august-2022__;Iw!!IBzWLUs!TEfrMdM_S69QkW3YSBkUMqbzA2zZFhJ3cYXSmfKAMOTjwwCsd9-dekfD-MFisfAEbeHYAB6ouoHQBcmPcg$
>> Regards,
>> *Matthew Wilder*
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 12:24 PM Matthew Wilder <matthew.wilder at telus.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi PPML,
>>> I appreciate the lively discussion thus far on ARIN-2022-3, including
>>> concerns around what prosecutorial powers might be lost if officer
>>> attestations are no longer required. Thanks also to staff for summarizing
>>> the result of the ACSP Consultation 2021.4 retiring the officer attestation
>>> requirement for documentation of needs assessment.
>>> The prevailing concern in the community around ARIN-2022-3 appears to be
>>> that removing officer attestation would impede the prosecution of those
>>> conducting fraud. In order to have the experts address this concern, I
>>> (along with my fellow policy shepherd Joe) have requested a staff and legal
>>> review. Our hope is that staff (and legal counsel in particular) might
>>> directly weigh in on how important the officer attestation is.
>>> We will make sure that relevant points are highlighted back to PPML for
>>> the community to consider in further discussion of the draft policy.
>>> Warm regards,
>>> *Matthew Wilder*
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