[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the ‘Autonomous System Originations’ Field

[Matt Erculiani]

I fully stand by my comments made in-person. I do not support this policy.

I do not believe making this data harder to access particularly benefits
anyone. If this is a technical challenge that ARIN faces serving this data
at the volume it is requested, perhaps system augmentation is necessary to
support the query load. Perhaps a much lower threshold for throttling might
be a better, cheaper, option.

If the concern is that there are some "top-talkers" using this field to
construct prefix filters or similar with automation, perhaps ARIN can
petition those organizations directly to use the bulk feed, instead of just
taking it away and forcing their hand.

Worst case scenario, those who previously relied on this field ignore the
guidance, as they have been, may introduce additional queries per second to
get around the missing data, further exacerbating the problem this policy
set out to fix.

I don't think everyone on the Internet would come away from this completely
unscathed. If we're lucky, the fallout will be fairly isolated.

-Matt



On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:07 AM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:

> On 21 October 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced the following
> Draft Policy to Recommended Draft Policy status:
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> * ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the ‘Autonomous System Originations’ Field
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> The text of the Recommended Draft Policy is below, and may also be found
> at:
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> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_8/
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> You are encouraged to discuss all Recommended Draft Policies on PPML prior
> to their presentation at the next ARIN Public Policy Consultation (PPC).
> PPML and PPC discussions are invaluable to the AC when determining
> community consensus.
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> The PDP can be found at:
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> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
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> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
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> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
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> Regards,
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> Sean Hopkins
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> Senior Policy Analyst
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> American Registry for Internet Numbers
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> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the ‘Autonomous
> System Originations’ Field
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> AC Assessment of Conformance with the Principles of Internet Number
> Resource Policy:
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> Based on community feedback and AC discussion we motion to move
> ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the 'Autonomous System Originations' Field to
> Recommended Draft, with the following change to Language: The removal of
> 'OriginAs' fields from December 31st 2024 to 24 months after board adoption.
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> Problem Statement:
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> In the last two decades, ARIN has developed multiple services which
> provide mechanisms for Internet Number Resource holders to publish
> information about their routing intentions.
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> The optional 'OriginAS' field was invented before RPKI existed in
> practice.  At that time, ARIN's Internet Routing Registry (IRR) followed a
> weak authorization model compared to available and in use today such as
> RPKI. The 'OriginAS' data was an improvement compared the other mechanisms
> that were available at that time.
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> However, there are issues with the consumption of the data in the OriginAS
> field:
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> Consuming the 'OriginAS' field in a high-scale automated pipeline is
> challenging. The consumer needs to enter into a 'Bulk Whois Data' agreement
> with ARIN, download a multiple-gigabytes XML file (which is only generated
> once a day), parse this XML file, and then extract the OriginAS field.
> Querying objects one-by-one via the HTTPS interface does not scale well.
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> Policy statement:
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> 1. Remove Section 3.5 “Autonomous System Originations” of the NRPM in its
> entirety.
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> 2. Remove the ‘OriginAS’ field from the database
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> Timetable for implementation:
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> 1. Removal of  section 3.5: Immediate after ARIN Board adoption.
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> 2. Removal of the ‘OriginAS’ field from the database: 24 months after ARIN
> Board adoption.
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> Policy Term: Permanent
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-- 
Matt Erculiani
ERCUL-ARIN
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