[arin-ppml] Opinions.. Layer Host aka Global Frag, Higher level approaches
John Santos
john at egh.com
Wed Nov 23 15:34:46 EST 2022
In the US, this is Thanksgiving week. Many of us have other priorities.
Personally, I don't recognize any of the domain names or IP addresses.
Are you alleging the holders of some or all of these blocks are actively
requesting approval of more space, and that the blocks are being used illegally?
If so, are you proposing specific policy to prevent this?
On 11/23/2022 1:00 PM, Michael Peddemors wrote:
> Quite surprised that there is no feedback on this issue.
>
> Does noone have any comments, or is there simply fear to callout a specific
> provider? This is an incredible amount of IPv4 space that could be put to better
> use ;)
>
> However, I expected at least some comments about their customer 'rwhois'
> information, and the accuracy of that information. Given that it is obvious the
> same operator is using IP space across mutliple 'assignee' <sic>
>
> On 2022-11-20 06:58, Michael Peddemors wrote:
>> Just curious, want opinions.. We all know about 'bullet proof' hosters, who
>> facilitate criminal activity, but when huge swathes of the internet IPv4 space
>> is used, and obviously the activity of those networks creates large risks to
>> the internet community, what are the next steps to be taken?
>>
>> Is this a case for ARIN to be involved in? Does the internet community have a
>> role in this? While we are all for an open and free internet, something needs
>> to be done. Oh sure, independent organizations and reputation list
>> maintainers are probably already blocking traffic from them, is this a case
>> for legal action? Class action suits? Global agreement to sanction the
>> operators? Should organizations like M3AAWG take a position?
>>
>> Should they at least not be able to use that activity as an excuse to get more
>> space? The information in 'rwhois' is often questionable, as to who <sic> they
>> delegate IP space to.
>>
>> Love to hear the communities thoughts..
>>
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