[arin-ppml] Transferring Waiting List Space - Feedback Requested

[Fernando Frediani]

Then need to detail and analyze what sound unreasonable in changing 5 
years period to indefinite.

Reducing the request size to anything smaller than an /22 is giving a 
such small and useless space that will probably make no difference to 
whoever receives it. A /22 is already a very small amount (almost 
symbolic) but at least gives the ability to a newer organizations to 
work with something, get into the market, innovate, reach some proper 
size and then invest in different technologies to make better usage of 
few IPv4 and deploy IPv6 properly in order to keep existing in the 
market. Plus giving out /24-only to organizations in the waiting list 
would contribute even more to increase the size of the routing table 
with very little gain.

A change in the waiting-list rules that would be certainly be welcome is 
restrict it only to newcomers that have no IPv4 space at all. Those who 
already have had already enough time to learn live with what they have 
and organize themselves to either do IPv4 transfers and deploy IPv6 in 
order to reduce its dependency whenever possible.

Fernando

On 14/11/2022 19:53, David Farmer via ARIN-PPML wrote:
> I reviewed the Policy Implementation and Experience Report presented 
> at ARIN 50;
>
> https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/ARIN50/materials/1020_policyimplementation.pdf
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RruDSG32D0M&list=PL726kQ53RX6i-x05T2JLckh59gWtLs1TR&t=5569s 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RruDSG32D0M&list=PL726kQ53RX6i-x05T2JLckh59gWtLs1TR&t=5569s>
> https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/ARIN50/day1_transcript/#policy-implementation-and-experience-report
>
> I don't support any changes to the transfer provisions of the waiting 
> list. The current transfer provisions seem reasonable to me.
>
> However, if I were going to support any changes to the waiting list, I 
> would support reducing the request size from /22 to /24.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:42 PM WOOD Alison * DAS 
> <Alison.WOOD at das.oregon.gov> wrote:
>
>     Hello!
>
>     The Policy Experience Report Working Group has been working on the
>     Policy Experience Report from ARIN 50.  I would appreciate your
>     feedback on the following issue regarding transferring waitlist space.
>
>     The current wait list criteria is:
>
>       * Must have a /20 or less in total IPv4 holdings.
>       * May request up to a /22.
>       * Removed from list if IPv4 received via 8.3/8.4 transfer.
>       * Received ip space is eligible for needs-based transfer after
>         five years.
>
>     The Policy Experience Working Group would like your feedback on a
>     potential policy that would restrict the transfer of IP space that
>     has been obtained from the waiting list.  In other words, any IP
>     address space received from the waiting list would be ineligible
>     for transfer indefinitely and encouraged to be returned to ARIN if
>     not in use.  This policy would be specific to transfers and not M
>     & A’s.
>
>     The working group appreciates your feedback.
>
>     Thank you!
>
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