[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2021-3: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy Clarifications

Andrew Dul andrew.dul at quark.net
Tue Mar 15 15:42:13 EDT 2022


I'd like to propose another option for the last part of section5, to 
make it clear that a planning and implementation period is permissible.


"AS Numbers shall be issued to organizations meeting section 5 criteria 
and up to 12 months prior to planned implementation on their network."



On 3/8/2022 7:54 PM, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML wrote:
> I’m fine with all but the last change… The new wording is potentially 
> more problematic than the old wording in that “current need” might 
> imply that one needs to already be multi homed before one can get an 
> ASN, which creates a bit of a catch-22 which is the reason for the “or 
> immediately become…” language.
>
> I suggest instead that we consider the following:
>
> AS Numbers are based on current need, as set out in this section 5. 
> However, a site which plans to begin exchanging inter domain routing 
> protocols with other autonomous systems upon receipt of the ASN 
> requested is considered to have current need.
>
> This would, IMHO, have the clarifying effect which is sought in the 
> problem statement.
>
> Owen
>
>
>> On Mar 8, 2022, at 06:51, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>
>> The following Draft Policy has been revised:
>> * ARIN-2021-3: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy Clarifications
>> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_3/
>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
>> evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft 
>> Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as 
>> stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these 
>> principles are:
>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>> * Technically Sound
>> * Supported by the Community
>> The PDP can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
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>> Regards,
>> Sean Hopkins
>> Senior Policy Analyst
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2021-3: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy 
>> Clarifications
>> Problem Statement:
>> At ARIN 47, staff identified three points of potential confusion with 
>> current text in NRPM Section 5: AS Numbers.
>> “Sites that do not require a unique AS Number should use one or more 
>> of the AS Numbers reserved for private use.” Some customers are not 
>> aware that their need for unique AS Numbers depends upon their need 
>> (or lack thereof) to interconnect with other organizations’ 
>> Autonomous Systems.
>> “In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization 
>> must provide ARIN with verification that it has one of the 
>> following…A unique routing policy (its policy differs from its border 
>> gateway peers)…A multihomed site.” Few customers qualify for AS 
>> Numbers under the “unique routing policy” requirement, because they 
>> don’t understand what “unique routing policy” actually means in practice.
>> “AS Numbers are issued based on current need. An organization should 
>> request an AS Number only when it is already multihomed or will 
>> immediately become multihomed.” All ARIN delegations are based on 
>> current needs, and some customers aren’t aware they need network 
>> plans when they request AS Numbers. Additionally, clarification that 
>> some organizations may have a unique need for an AS Number outside of 
>> utilizing a unique routing policy, such as one implemented using, for 
>> example, a protocol such as Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
>> Policy statement:
>> In Section 5 -
>> Replace
>> “Sites that do not require a unique AS Number should use one or more 
>> of the AS Numbers reserved for private use.”
>> with
>> “If a unique AS Number is not required for a given network design, 
>> one or more of the AS Numbers reserved for private use should be 
>> utilized.”
>> Replace
>> “In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization 
>> must provide ARIN with verification that it has one of the following
>>    A unique routing policy (its policy differs from its border 
>> gateway peers) 2. A multihomed site”
>> with
>> “In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization 
>> must provide ARIN with verification that it requires a unique routing 
>> policy, such as a plan:
>>     To originate announcement of IP Number Resources via an accepted 
>> protocol (such as Border Gateway Protocol) from an AS Number 
>> different than that of its upstream provider;
>>     To multihome a site with one or more Autonomous Systems; or
>>     To use an AS Number to interconnect with other Autonomous Systems.”
>> Replace
>> “AS Numbers are issued based on current need. An organization should 
>> request an AS Number only when it is already multihomed or will 
>> immediately become multihomed.”
>> with
>> “AS Numbers are issued based on current need, as set out in this 
>> section 5.”
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