[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5

Peter Potvin peter.potvin at accuristechnologies.ca
Mon Jun 27 15:35:59 EDT 2022


Hey John,

I appreciate the detailed insight!

I noticed the mention of the Officer Acknowledgement Letter for the source
organization in NRPM 8.3, however a majority of NRPM 8.3 appears to only
refer to IPv4 number resources from what I can see both on the page you
linked to and within the NRPM itself. Are there any specific restrictions
that pertain to NRPM 8.3 transfers that involve only ASNs, or is it safe to
assume that by IPv4 number resources it means any number resources
distributed by ARIN (including IPv4, IPv6 and ASN)? One thing to note on
this is that it references a minimum block of /24 for transfers and that
the source organization will not be eligible to apply for waitlist space
for a period of 36 months, however I don't necessarily see how that would
apply to only ASNs being transferred under 8.3.

Regards,
Peter Potvin

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 3:03 PM John Sweeting <jsweeting at arin.net> wrote:

> Hello PPML,
>
>
>
> ARIN would like to provide a clarification on both the Officer Attestation
> which is what is highlighted in DP ARIN-2022-3 and the Officer
> Acknowledgement which is not included in that Draft Policy.
>
>
>
> Officer Attestation, as referenced in ARIN Number Resource Policy Manual
> (NRPM) 8.5.5 Block Size is specifically asking for an officer of the
> organization to attest to the documented justification that states at least
> 50% of the requested block size will be used within the next 24 months.
> There is no notarization required and it serves to state and confirm
> that yes, that is our plan for the next 24 months and the information and
> documentation provided is accurate. This is only asked for in conjunction
> with a specified transfer recipient.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, Officer Acknowledgement, which is not contained in the
> NRPM, is an operational requirement for Source Organizations (Current
> Registrant) found at:
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> https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/
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>
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> This requirement states that “The source organization must provide a
> signed and notarized Officer Acknowledgement Letter
> <https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/office_acknowledgement.pdf>.
> The purposes of this requirement are:
>
>
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> -to state that there are no known disputes from another party to claim
> rights to these Internet number resources
>
> -to ensure that a duly authorized officer has the authority to legally
> bind the source registrant
>
> -to document the authorization to transfer said resources
>
> -to provide indemnification to ARIN
>
> -to verify that the data in the transfer request ticket is accurate
>
> -to agree to all terms and release the rights to the Internet number
> resources contained in the specified transfer ticket.
>
>
>
> As you can see there is really no comparison to the two separate and
> distinct documents that serve two very different purposes.
>
>
>
> If there is further information required please reply and we will get that
> out to the list.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> John S.
>
>
>
>
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> *From: *Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Monday, June 27, 2022 at 11:33 AM
> *To: *John Sweeting <jsweeting at arin.net>
> *Cc: *Tom Fantacone <tom at iptrading.com>, ARIN PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> *Subject: *[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer
> Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5
>
>
>
> Dear ARIN-PPML,
>
>
>
> Please find my comments below, inline...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Le lundi 27 juin 2022, John Sweeting <jsweeting at arin.net> a écrit :
>
> Hi PPML,
>
>
>
> Please be patient on this one. There is a lot of incorrect information
> reference these two forms
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for confirming this, brother :'-(
>
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>
>
> and we will be sending out a clarification to this list later this morning
> with exact details of each form.
>
>
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>
>
> Great!
>
> ...i look forward to obtaining authoritative insights :-)
>
>
>
> Shalom,
>
> --sb.
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> Thanks,
>
> John S.
>
>
>
> *From: *ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> on behalf of Tom Fantacone
> <tom at iptrading.com>
> *Date: *Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:57 AM
> *To: *Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *ARIN PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer
> Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5
>
>
>
> I don't believe either form (Acknowledgement or Attestation) are currently
> optional.  Only the Acknowledgement form needs to be notarized, however.
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