[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Sat Jun 25 00:41:46 EDT 2022


Easy enough to check for yourself…

https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/office_acknowledgement.pdf

The attestation form is at the link above.

No mention of perjury, but most business contracts aren’t signed under penalty of perjury.

You don’t really need to sign under penalty of perjury to put yourself on the hook for civil and criminal fraud liability if you
signed the contract with intent to deceive in order to acquire something of value.

Owen


> On Jun 24, 2022, at 19:40 , Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear ARIN-PPML,
> 
> Hope this email finds you in good health!
> Please find my comments below, inline...
> 
> Le vendredi 24 juin 2022, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com <mailto:rfg at tristatelogic.com>> a écrit :
> In message <CAGbMP+j5zR+-DFubVh6RQOomfpMeMBfes0NmnTm0_nUng2qwgg at mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAGbMP+j5zR+-DFubVh6RQOomfpMeMBfes0NmnTm0_nUng2qwgg at mail.gmail.com>>
> Matthew Wilder <matthew.wilder at telus.com <mailto:matthew.wilder at telus.com>> wrote:
> 
> >Would-be fraudsters on the transfer market would
> >now face significant cost to execute a transfer, and presumably, an
> >organization operating in bad faith could easily provide officer
> >attestation.
> 
> Are these attestations signed "under penality of perjury"?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John, could you, please, take also that question?
> 
> Thanks for asking, Ronald :-)
> 
> <quote>
> "declaration under penalty of perjury 
> A statement that has been signed by a declarant 
> who will be found guilty of perjury if the facts 
> declared in the statement are shown to be 
> materially false." 
> </quote>
> __
> https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/declaration_under_penalty_of_perjury#:~:text=declaration%20under%20penalty%20of%20perjury,shown%20to%20be%20materially%20false <https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/declaration_under_penalty_of_perjury#:~:text=declaration%20under%20penalty%20of%20perjury,shown%20to%20be%20materially%20false>.
> 
> 
> It would certainly add more security to the process.
> 
> Thus, imho, the policy manual should be keeped as
>  is or only improved to add more protection against
>  potential *reservation* plans.
> 
> Shalom,
> --sb.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> If so, it may be worthwhile to keep requiring them.  Fraudsters may yet
> balk at adding yet another crime on top of whatever ones they are already
> committing.  (That is my thinking anyway.)
> 
> 
> Regards,
> rfg
> [...]
> 
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