[arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

Matthew Petach mpetach at netflight.com
Mon Jul 25 16:48:41 EDT 2022


On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 1:24 PM Paul E McNary <pmcnary at cameron.net> wrote:

> IANA controls root servers but doesn't ARIN control reverse delegation.
>

ARIN provides reverse delegation entries for a subset of the in-addr.arpa
and ip6.arpa
space, yes.



> Then why do we need ARIN again if they control nothing about our Internet
> access?
>

To a certain degree, you don't.
Pay enough money to an unscrupulous entity for transit, squat on some
unused IP space,
and you too can get internet access without going through ARIN.

We just need IANA. ARIN can go away then and we will be all fine?
>

If your definition of "be all fine" includes "chaotic anarchy", then sure.

ARIN provides the same type of function that the county clerk provides,
which prevents us from descending into a wild west shootout scenario
to determine who controls what land.

We all collectively agree to abide by a centralized registry of
information,
to resolve disputes and ensure uniqueness of address utilization.

IANA doesn't want to deal with that level of record keeping, so it
delegates
the paperwork function out to regional registries, of which ARIN is one.

>From an authority perspective, you're right, it could all be done at the
IANA
level, and the RIRs could go away--but that would mean a huge amount more
paperwork and headache for IANA which they aren't thrilled to do.

ARIN is just a delegated function of IANA, so that IANA doesn't have to
deal
with running the databases and keeping everything updated for everyone in
the
world.  Think of it as outsourcing the busywork.   ;)

Matt




>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Matthew Petach" <mpetach at netflight.com>
> *To: *"pmcnary" <pmcnary at cameron.net>
> *Cc: *"arin-ppml" <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> *Sent: *Monday, July 25, 2022 3:14:23 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?
>
>
> I don't usually post memes to policy mailing lists, but...
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 1:08 PM Paul E McNary <pmcnary at cameron.net> wrote:
>
>> ARIN controls the root servers for this region do they not.
>> Without the root servers nothing gets routed.
>> That is a part of the number resources ARIN made commitments to maintain
>> for all resources that had been allocated.
>> And yes I was well alive before Al Gore invented the Internet. :-)
>>
>
> [image: image.png]
> https://media.tenor.com/images/ec1e284a7da93f47ee8499c4462f3539/tenor.png
>
> In this case, I would argue it was warranted.   ^_^;
>
> No, ARIN does not control the root servers.
>
> No, the root servers don't control routing of IP addresses.
>
> No, ARIN made no commitment of any sort about root servers.
>
> And no, Al Gore did not invent the Internet.   ^_^;
>
> Matt
>
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