[arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

Paul E McNary pmcnary at cameron.net
Mon Jul 25 14:18:05 EDT 2022


Bill
Then why the threat?

----- Original Message -----
From: "William Herrin" <bill at herrin.us>
To: "Fernando Frediani" <fhfrediani at gmail.com>
Cc: "arin-ppml" <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 1:09:47 PM
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 8:02 AM Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com> wrote:
> Question here John: if the resources are legacy and they were assigned
> before ARIN existence, these resources should ideally be reverted back
> to IANA which in turn should apply the Post Exhaustion Global Policy
> from May 6th 2021 and re-distribute these blocks to all RIRs ?

Hi Fernando,

John can correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know, ARIN has NEVER
reclaimed legacy resources which were neither voluntarily returned nor
then operating under a specific registrant contract with ARIN (such as
the LRSA).

John will claim that ARIN has that authority regardless. Such a claim
is dubious at best. Without a contract it's unclear from whence such
authority would arise. Without such authority, ARIN could find itself
running afoul of the law. For example, a legacy registrant could claim
tortious interference with its contract with an ISP should ARIN act to
reassign the legacy addresses without permission. IMHO, it would be
irresponsible for ARIN to incur legal risk with reclamation actions
against legacy holders. And as noted, they have not done so.

ARIN has refused to transfer addresses to another party where the
addresses are not under contract. There is no active dispute over
their ability to refuse action.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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