[arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Mon Jul 25 10:34:26 EDT 2022

> On 25 Jul 2022, at 10:15 AM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
> ...
> I have wondered myself. I have heard of a team inside ARIN working to
> identify such blocks, if my memory serves.

Yes, but “it’s complicated…"

> I have seen administratively and voluntarily dissolved corporations come
> back to life, so ARIN must consider this. 

Exactly… It turns out that dissolved isn’t necessarily a permanent state, and in addition
“dissolved” doesn’t mean that the rights necessarily and automatically revert to the ARIN
community – there may be one or more parties that has potential claim to the resources,
either via bankruptcy or provisions of the corporate wind down. 

> The duration of dormancy allowed varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
> These jurisdictions normally see an inflow of back filing fees as part of
> resuscitation. 
> They may not have much incentive to prevent these things.
> Complicated for ARIN, the blocks are hijack bait and could be put to proper
> use through re-issuance, but it could be a thorny and expensive legal issue
> and exposure.
> It would be nice to have some idea of the scope of the issue. Even in the
> case of old sole proprietorships where the registrant dies, the fate of
> addresses is unclear.

Correct - we’re looking to see what can be done when cases are reported to us, but it is
a fairly manual and labor intensive process.


John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

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