[arin-ppml] Potentially black listed space

Chris Woodfield chris at semihuman.com
Thu Aug 11 19:08:11 EDT 2022


I feel that pledging a “warranty” of sorts for allocated space is well beyond ARIN’s capabilities - ARIN doesn’t control routing, or blacklists, and has never shown any interest in having that control. At best, ARIN staff can make a best-effort attempt to alert upstream providers and blacklist operators that a specific block has been reclaimed and will be allocated to a new owner, but whether or not to act on that information is entirely out of ARIN’s hands. 

I’d be curious how many blacklist operators make use of the arin-issued data to remove reclaimed space from their lists? And has ARIN engaged in any outreach to blacklist operators on this data source?

-C

> On Aug 11, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 2:22 PM WOOD Alison * DAS <Alison.WOOD at das.oregon.gov> wrote:
> Good afternoon PPML:
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> It has been brought to the attention of the Policy Experience Working Group that in rare circumstances it is possible that Internet resources re-issued from revoked RSA space may have been on a block list or currently routed.  The ARIN staff  is very careful to make sure that any reissued space is not routed so as to cause some unaware 3rd party problems with their business as well as the new holder.  ARIN also aims to avoid providing space that appears on block lists and is diligent in researching these issues.
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> OK
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> As a community, would you like to see clarification in section 4.1.8, stating something like:  Space revoked per the RSA has had no substantial routing table usage since revocation and has met a six month hold time?
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> If the only option to fulfill my waitlist request was getting revoked space(dirty) I would take it. Is leaving well enough alone (discretionary) causing some other issue?
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> Hope that helps. Hopefully I understood this. 
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> -M<
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