[arin-ppml] Deceased Companies

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Sun Aug 7 23:11:38 EDT 2022

It is positive that many of these legacy holder returned some of their 
unneeded IPv4 resources in the past. However I personally believe it is 
something negative that there is still a fair amount of these addresses 
unused and not even announced to the DFZ as if they were waiting for 
some big Internet event to happen.

I really don't mind Legacy Holders to keep addresses that were assigned 
to them ages ago as long they have a justification for using them. In 
the other hand I am unable to believe any organization in the entire 
world that is not a Telecommunications or a Hosting Company is able to 
technically justify more and a single /8.


On 07/08/2022 15:06, John Curran wrote:
>> On 6 Aug 2022, at 10:00 PM, Steven Ryerse 
>> <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com> wrote:
>> ...
>> If this community wants more resources, the more obvious place to 
>> find them isn't some relatively small block held by an organization 
>> or individual that might be deceased, this community could try and 
>> convince the DoD to release some portion of their very large /8 
>> assignments.  That could be fertile ground.  Who knows how many IPv4 
>> addresses they are actually using and need.
>> I've never heard of it happening but it wouldn't surprise me if ARIN 
>> has quietly discussed this possibility with the DoD as some point.
>> We wouldn't hear about it unless resources were actually released.
> Already happened (more than a decade ago): the US DoD, BBN, Stanford, 
> Interop, etc. all returned some of their unneeded IPv4 resources after 
> being approached by ARIN – the address space was returned, held for a 
> period, and then issued by the policies in place at that time.
> Thanks,
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
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