[arin-ppml] Potentially black listed space

[Martin Hannigan]

That's already the case.

Section 12 of the RSA is clear that ARIN provides zero warranties and
accepts no liability for spoiled space.

YMMV,

-M<



On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 7:08 PM Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com> wrote:

> I feel that pledging a “warranty” of sorts for allocated space is well
> beyond ARIN’s capabilities - ARIN doesn’t control routing, or blacklists,
> and has never shown any interest in having that control. At best, ARIN
> staff can make a best-effort attempt to alert upstream providers and
> blacklist operators that a specific block has been reclaimed and will be
> allocated to a new owner, but whether or not to act on that information is
> entirely out of ARIN’s hands.
>
> I’d be curious how many blacklist operators make use of the arin-issued
> data to remove reclaimed space from their lists? And has ARIN engaged in
> any outreach to blacklist operators on this data source?
>
> -C
>
> > On Aug 11, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 2:22 PM WOOD Alison * DAS <
> Alison.WOOD at das.oregon.gov> wrote:
> > Good afternoon PPML:
> >
> >
> > It has been brought to the attention of the Policy Experience Working
> Group that in rare circumstances it is possible that Internet resources
> re-issued from revoked RSA space may have been on a block list or currently
> routed.  The ARIN staff  is very careful to make sure that any reissued
> space is not routed so as to cause some unaware 3rd party problems with
> their business as well as the new holder.  ARIN also aims to avoid
> providing space that appears on block lists and is diligent in researching
> these issues.
> >
> >
> > OK
> >
> >
> >
> > As a community, would you like to see clarification in section 4.1.8,
> stating something like:  Space revoked per the RSA has had no substantial
> routing table usage since revocation and has met a six month hold time?
> >
> >
> >
> > If the only option to fulfill my waitlist request was getting revoked
> space(dirty) I would take it. Is leaving well enough alone (discretionary)
> causing some other issue?
> >
> > Hope that helps. Hopefully I understood this.
> >
> > -M<
> >
> >
> >
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