[arin-ppml] Have we REALLY got to this sad state of disrepair?

[Adam Thompson]

Now that I look, RIPEstat tells me that someone from Russia *did* use those addresses.  (AS46640, since the data's public...)
So I can state with confidence that not having a better way to clean up zombie/orphans does lead to misuse.
-Adam

Adam Thompson
Consultant, Infrastructure Services
MERLIN
100 - 135 Innovation Drive
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
athompson at merlin.mb.ca
www.merlin.mb.ca

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of Adam
> Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 4:32 PM
> To: William Herrin <bill at herrin.us>; Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net>
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Have we REALLY got to this sad state of disrepair?
> 
> I would like a mechanism to do this, or something closely related - nominate
> blocks we know are orphans.  For example, I obtained a legacy /24 for my
> employer in the early '90s.  That company is no longer in business.  I can
> guarantee the block isn't (or shouldn't be) in use on the public internet.  I
> know the owner never sold it, because I was working with him on that.  But
> I have no way to *prove* its abandonment.  So there it sits, forever
> inaccessible.  I mean, I could squat on it :-) but that's called "being part of
> the problem".
> The amount of effort it was going to require on my part and the company
> owner's just to get it released back into the free pool, never mind sell it, was
> prohibitive.  (I've had this discussion with Cathy(?) @ Member Services
> before, getting things notarized in Manitoba is a VERY significant burden, in
> time, in travel, and in cost, compared to other jurisdictions.)
> There really ought to be a better solution to that - everyone on this list is
> probably aware of some zombie/orphan allocations they've been involved
> with.
> Within ARIN's current stance/perspective on legal issues (which I've
> criticized before, here), though, I don't see any easy fix.
> -Adam
> 
> Adam Thompson
> Consultant, Infrastructure Services
> MERLIN
> 100 - 135 Innovation Drive
> Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
> (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
> athompson at merlin.mb.ca
> www.merlin.mb.ca
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of William
> > Herrin
> > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 8:55 PM
> > To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net>
> > Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Have we REALLY got to this sad state of disrepair?
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:00 PM Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net>
> > wrote:
> > > ARIN has been pussyfooting around long enough with these zombie
> > > resources, by now CKN23-ARIN should NEVER appear tied to a number
> > > resource.  Please, get on the stick and get these resources freed so
> > > they can be used.
> >
> > Hi Ted,
> >
> > I look forward to your policy proposal in which an IP broker or other
> > interested party can be granted care of a zombie legacy block, perform
> > the legal diligence needed to justify releasing its registration,
> > arrange the proper indemnity for ARIN should they have it wrong, and
> > subsequently arrange its transfer to a new registrant.
> >
> > There are, of course, no non-legacy zombie blocks. The non-legacy
> > blocks unavailable for assignment are in cool-down which is a
> > different thing entirely.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bill Herrin
> >
> > --
> > William Herrin
> > bill at herrin.us
> > https://bill.herrin.us/
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