[arin-ppml] Proposal to ban Leasing of IP Addresses in the ARIN region

Michael Peddemors michael at linuxmagic.com
Wed Sep 22 13:56:37 EDT 2021


On 2021-09-22 10:40 a.m., William Herrin wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:04 AM Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
> <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
>> No signatory to any ARIN RSA is permitted by policy to engage in a recurring charge for addresses or a differentiated service charge based on the number if addresses issued to a customer. Addresses must be provided strictly as part of a contract for connectivity services and the number of addresses provided shall not, in any way, affect the cost of those connectivity services.
> 
> No, interfering with the prices a registrant charges its customers is
> way out of bounds. It would be out of bounds in the RSA let alone in
> the policy documents.
> 
> If you want to go this route, here's how you write the policy:
> 
> LIR-assigned number resources employed by an end user with a routing
> policy in which the LIR is not the primary network service provider
> handling the majority of the end user's associated network traffic do
> not count toward the LIR's efficient utilization of addresses.

This does sound better.. probably the best proposal so far, but how does 
it apply to the transfer market? And would those that this affects, 
quickly work around it by offering connectivity <sic>.

But kind of curious, should ARIN take a position also on the 'hosting' 
<sic> companies, that just let anyone use IP space for any use, eg say I 
start a hosting company, and get a /20 and just advertise to snow shoe 
spammers, come utilize my IP Space, just to get to 100% utilization, so 
they can get more IP Space.  They aren't really interested in making 
money on the customers, they just want demonstrated utilization.

I am sure we all know some of these companies.

While ARIN normally doesn't take a position on WHAT the IP(s) are used 
for, just that they have utilization, some companies may abuse this as a 
ruse to gain IP Space. And some probably already have.

Just a question, as we routinely see /16's that are just spammer havens, 
and hard to see any other reason for them to operate that way, except to 
fulfill utilization requirements.



> It's not great but at least it's in-scope for number policy.
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 



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